upcoming EV's - easier to maintain?
upcoming EV's - easier to maintain?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Im a bit keen on regular oil changes, proper warming of the car and regular maintenance when it comes to my cars.

As the EV march gathers pace, I was kind of pondering what the maintenance aspect will be like

gearbox oil changes?
Motor(s) brushes changing
Replacing battery when charge hold starts to run low
Plus other general stuff like tyres

Anyone got any more ideas or thoughts? Warming up not necessary I guess..



Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Gearbox oil changes (should be quite a few miles mind) and suspension components will be all you can do. Battery replacement will be down to how it's used etc, so forget about that for now!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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The up and down boingy bits at the corners will be the same


And don't forget the vital task of checking the tyre valve caps are still there


kambites

71,545 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Surely the motors are brushless, and I'm pretty sure the gearboxes will be "sealed for life"? As far as I know, routine maintenance is pretty much non-existent. Obviously suspension, tyres, etc. will still wear; brakes will wear too but much more slowly than in a conventional car.

You still need to do things like topping up the washer bottles I suppose. hehe

dtmpower

3,972 posts

275 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I can't imagine any production EV having a brushed motor.

Brushless motors don't have any consumables apart from the bearings.

Most EV I've read about are a single fixed ratio gearbox.

The brakes get far less use as the regent braking kicks in first.

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I guess a transmission oil change will be every 50,000 miles, if one is keen on such a thing. Sooner if used for lots of towing (honda state 25,000 miles for my honda civic). Auto's are usually stated as "lifetime fill" (I asked BMW via email about this, they offer no recommendations for oil changes in their autoboxes here in the UK although they know some people change at 100,000 miles. I also asked them for any data of oil analysis over time, they couldnt provide anything)

Replace brake fluid every couple of years

Any air conditioning maintinence? More of an issue for people who don't run the aircon on a regular basis

Kick the tyres once a week and wash off any bird crap.

J4CKO

46,887 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I think they will need much less maintenance as they dont have a big lump of metal with controlled explosions going on under the bonnet which generates heat, noise and vibration, they dont have engine oil to leak out, less components to crack and perish and the heat cycles will be much gentler. There is no clutch to wear out.

Electric motors are much much simpler than even a small IC engine, one moving part which goes in one direction, contrast with an IC engine which has a mechanical ballet going on, which in a lot of cases all depends on a small rubber belt which, if it fails means the whole lot comes together, the internal combustion engine must waste a hell of a lot of energy in friction, sending pistons up and down, turning cams, opening valves etc. I suspect the mountings for the electric motor may be simpler and not wear out as easily.

No Exhaust to worry about, no cooling system to flush. IC engines all have a motor to generate electricity off the engine anyway, so wont need that any more.

Gearbox is a lot simpler and doesnt have some numpty interfering with it every few seconds.

So, on an EV it will be suspension which may take a bit more of a pounding as they are generally a little heavier but I suspect they will be specced to cope, suspension isnt generally that much of a problem anyway and is usually pretty easy to work on.

Brakes will need work but the pads and disks will get an easier life, fluid changes would be similar.

The battery is the only thing I would worry about, but then you have one on a conventional car anyway, but you cnt get these from Halfords for £100 or less !

Electronics may be a problem but every car is full of them anyway so probably similar, possibly a bit less due to not having the hot lump at the front.



Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Just a point of note, they do have a cooling system for the motor, but it'll be a long-life fill and under much less stress than the usual IC systems.

kambites

71,545 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Looking at the LEAF's service schedule, the only things on there that actually need regular attention is the brake fluid, which they recommend changing every year (which seems a bit OTT) and rotating the tyres to equalise wear. There's a load of checks listed too, but the vast majority are of things that are no different to (or simpler than) an ICE car.

ETA: Oh, and changing the pollen filter.

J4CKO

46,887 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Krikkit said:
Just a point of note, they do have a cooling system for the motor, but it'll be a long-life fill and under much less stress than the usual IC systems.
Ah, ok, cheers.