Drive over tyre pressure check
Drive over tyre pressure check
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surveyor

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18,695 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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If this works like it says what a great idea....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25457598

Modern technology at its best.

Andehh

7,603 posts

236 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Impressive, id be interested in the workings of that if anyone can hazard a guess?

TooLateForAName

4,932 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Interesting.

All I can think of is that they measure the contact surface area.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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2 principal options i suspect


1) Capacitive or Resistive pressure pad, to record the "footprint" of the tyre. Calibrated for properly inflated tyres, and over a certain threshold area the system flags a warning

2) Vertical high bandwidth pressure sensor records the profile of the "impact" with the pad. An inflated tyre has a higher fundamental frequency than a flat one


I could see a use for commercial vehicles, but completely pointless for passenger cars that already have such systems fitted onboard. (Also, modern runflats will probably make such devices highly inaccurate)

RobM77

35,349 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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A really nice piece of work, but it must have a fairly big margin for error, considering firstly probably the technology used and the potential variables of vehicle loading, temperature etc (I don't know that of course), but secondly (and this we do know) the fact that the vehicle has presumably driven to the measurement station, and therefore you're measuring hot pressures, which is fairly limited for an accurate measure. The best way would still be to measure and set them cold. Useful for spotting punctures, but to make a passenger car drive well you'd still need to do it properly.

vikingaero

13,362 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Similar to the Heka Test Lanes which are mainly used for wheel alignment but probably record different parameters.

Blue Oval84

5,396 posts

191 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Do tyres really heat up in a couple of mile drive to the petrol station? My tyres are always stone cold to the touch when I get there, surely measuring the pressures at 7am vs 12pm would have a MUCH bigger effect on the pressure reading?

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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15-20 years ago this would be an excellent invention

now tyre pressure monitoring systems are cheap and are becoming mandatory in a lot of cases, it seems sort of pointless

vikingaero

13,362 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Blue Oval84 said:
Do tyres really heat up in a couple of mile drive to the petrol station? My tyres are always stone cold to the touch when I get there, surely measuring the pressures at 7am vs 12pm would have a MUCH bigger effect on the pressure reading?
Not much. It depends how anal you are about tyre pressures (I'm very biggrin) Some manufacturers recommend from cold which could be 20C and others recommend from 0C. I have a calibrated gauge and can see differences in pressure from the sun shining on one side of the car and heating the tyres up.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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They are expensive pieces of kit £250k each yikes from what I've seen.

wemorgan

3,583 posts

208 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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Whilst the picture is of a car it's being aimed at the bus/hgv market. Worthwhile kit surely.

New POD

3,851 posts

180 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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wemorgan said:
Whilst the picture is of a car it's being aimed at the bus/hgv market. Worthwhile kit surely.
If you had a decent sized fleet with the same brand of tyre, it could be quite accurate after some co-relation work.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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RobM77 said:
A really nice piece of work, but it must have a fairly big margin for error, considering firstly probably the technology used and the potential variables of vehicle loading, temperature etc ....
Very straightforward in conjunction with ANPR. When used for a fleet of vehicles at a depot, as in the case described, a computer can be programmed with the "ideal" characteristics for each vehicle. That data is used to compare with the actual characteristics when the vehicle is driven over the plate and the answer calculated/displayed. Simples.

Glade

4,514 posts

253 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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website said:
RightStrip™ is attached to the road surface, the arrival of a vehicle is sensed magnetically and the impact of each of the wheels on the RightStrip™ is recorded and uploaded wirelessly to the internet. Data is subsequently analysed and tyre information is sent to the driver via SMS.
Sounds like force is measured, and a clever algorithm used?
Looks like they are working on adding some measurement of the side profile... scan with a laser, camera vision system??

http://www1.aston.ac.uk/business/grow-your-busines...



Edited by Glade on Saturday 4th January 10:56

skinny

5,269 posts

265 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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We have one of these at work. It's useful for big changes in tyre pressure but I'm not sure it's all that accurate.

LeoSayer

7,836 posts

274 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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I'd also be interested to understand how it works and how it knows what the correct pressure should be.

For my X5, there is a massive variation in the allowable pressure depending on the size of wheel fitted and load being carried. The minimum pressure is 29 and the full loaded pressure is 38.

On my 993 on 18" wheels the front pressure is 36 and the rear is 44. On 17" the rear is 36.

I guess it's designed to look for significant underinflation due to a puncture more than anything else. It might be a useful thing to have on the entrance to motorway service stations.