Which bushes?
Which bushes?
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Discopotatoes

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4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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I'm going to need new bushes on my rebuild, but which ones to go for?
Power flex.
Super flex.
Super pro.
Or OEM?
Or any others I might have missed
I have heard of some poly bushes not fitting and some melting but also OEM bushes can be a bugger to replace!

SILICONEKID346HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Nik at Willow sports cars poly bushed the whole rear end of my car including diff bushes .He was not very impressed with the bushes I supplied from Steve Heath . He shown me the poly bushes he uses and sells ,they were completely different ,Niks bushes seemed to have a lot more meat on them so less harsh .

http://www.willowsportscars.co.uk/tvr_chimaera_par...

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Yep the Steve Heath ones I think powerflex didn't last on mine, I went back to standard bushes for the rear wishbones.

Discopotatoes

Original Poster:

4,101 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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So is it the poly one which are rubbish?

carsy

3,019 posts

195 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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I`ve got the Steve Heath Powerflex i think ones on mine. Done about 5K miles on them with no problems. Pretty sure they give a lifetime warranty now as well.

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Yup the powerflex ones. In addition when i had my car geo fhey didnt rate them , its the wishbone ones that were crap

Sardonicus

19,451 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Hi Richard wavey Peter is the man to ask biggrin he is a good bench for stuff like this i.e track etc and the one's he was using he raved about how many trouble free miles he had covered thumbup Peter shout

Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Have a word with Pupp

He's just put in 'black' poly bushes

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Its a personal choice thing, but I'd only ever consider going poly bushing on the front & rear ARB mounts, and perhaps the diff mounts too.

But that's it for poly bushing, all wishbone bushes should be OEM metalastic as far as I'm concerned.

Take a look at an OEM bush and you'll see there really isn't a great deal of rubber in them, which means they're plenty stiff enough.

But nothing isolates noise, harshness & vibration like rubber, which is why Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Porsche ect ect still exclusively use good old fashioned (but highly effective) rubber bushing.

If poly really was the holy grail of bushing materials these manufacturers would be using it.

Willow does offer some natty little wishbone bush heat shields though, irrespective of weather you choose poly or rubber wishbone bushes I'd say the heat shields are a no-brainer on any Chim or Griff.

But these heat shields would be especially desirable on a turbo car like Rich's where exhaust temps will be even greater than the standard cars.

All this is just my personal opinion you understand wink

Edited by ChimpOnGas on Wednesday 8th January 10:15

carsy

3,019 posts

195 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Polys are just soooo easy to fit and replace if needed though and to be honest i couldnt tell any difference ride wise to the oe.

Discopotatoes

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4,101 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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I just had a mare getting the old OEM lower rear wishbone to upright bushes out the bolts seized into the the bush and access was rubbish to saw the bolts off, if the poly ones are two piece and stainless sleeve that should never happen, but I don't want to be replacing them again in a couple of years rolleyes

sapper

1,134 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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on my last chim I changed to polybushes and didnt like them at all. the ride was poor and feedback was lost, bought a new set of OEM this time to replace over the next few weeks.

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Discopotatoes said:
I just had a mare getting the old OEM lower rear wishbone to upright bushes out the bolts seized into the the bush and access was rubbish to saw the bolts off, if the poly ones are two piece and stainless sleeve that should never happen, but I don't want to be replacing them again in a couple of years rolleyes
Thats what i thought with the polybushes , easy to change but shouldnt wear out that quick!! Nah stick with what works ..... Standard.

Discopotatoes

Original Poster:

4,101 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Hoofa said:
Discopotatoes said:
I just had a mare getting the old OEM lower rear wishbone to upright bushes out the bolts seized into the the bush and access was rubbish to saw the bolts off, if the poly ones are two piece and stainless sleeve that should never happen, but I don't want to be replacing them again in a couple of years rolleyes
Thats what i thought with the polybushes , easy to change but shouldnt wear out that quick!! Nah stick with what works ..... Standard.
To be fair it was only 2 bushes on the whole car which were buggers so maybe your right, ill just put plenty of copper slip on the bolts during assembly

Pupp

12,970 posts

302 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Not had them on long enough to comment on durability but for (relative) ease of fitting, apparent material quality, and driving 'feel', I'm happy with the Powerflex Black bushes I fitted to the rear throughout. There is a definite handling improvement over the OEM metallastics but so there should be given the mileage they had done - I was quite surprised that all bar a couple were still firmly bonded however; was fully expecting a mix of black and brown crumbly dandruff to be holding the suspension together but they were still largely intact so certainly wouldn't discount replacing with the same if you can tool up for the faff of pressing the buggers in..

jojackson4

3,049 posts

167 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Discopotatoes said:
Hoofa said:
Discopotatoes said:
I just had a mare getting the old OEM lower rear wishbone to upright bushes out the bolts seized into the the bush and access was rubbish to saw the bolts off, if the poly ones are two piece and stainless sleeve that should never happen, but I don't want to be replacing them again in a couple of years rolleyes
Thats what i thought with the polybushes , easy to change but shouldnt wear out that quick!! Nah stick with what works ..... Standard.
To be fair it was only 2 bushes on the whole car which were buggers so maybe your right, ill just put plenty of copper slip on the bolts during assembly
+ 1 with the oe stuff the one s I have pulled out are the original ones from new (17years) so if they do that again jobs a goodn
And 1/2 the price of the polleys

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Just came across this thread by chance, normally residing on the classics section (M's)

It is recommended by various people for the M's to put metalastics (OE), on the 'weight-bearing' bushes (inner of the wishbones), whilst the outers get poly'

Perhaps it will work for you guys as well ?

phazed

22,504 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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I fitted Supaflex to my 4.6 about 4-5 years ago and have covered about 35K since then.

It was MOTd at my sons garage recently where I asked "the man" to give it a thorough going over suspension wise and all was sound.

So for me it was "fit and forget" .

Easy to fit,.... did it feel better, can't remember what rubber was like, (oh, apart from last night wink ).

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
Its a personal choice thing, but I'd only ever consider going poly bushing on the front & rear ARB mounts, and perhaps the diff mounts too.

But that's it for poly bushing, all wishbone bushes should be OEM metalastic as far as I'm concerned.
For most car set ups and drivers, I'd say the above is spot on. It's definitely a question of YMMV, though. smile

Discopotatoes

Original Poster:

4,101 posts

251 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Hmmm I still have to press the old ones out so my decision will depend on how much grief they give me!