Fred Whitton 2014
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Daveyraveygravey

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2,108 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Anyone else doing this? The entry closes on Saturday (11th Jan) and I'm in two minds. From all I have read, it sounds really tough and the Lake District weather seems to have made last year very hard.

I've got a couple of issues, apart from the level of difficulty (!). It would mean staying overnight for me before and after the event, and I would need to change my cassette. This is due replacing anyway, but I am struggling to find a 9 speed Campag cassette with more than 28 teeth, and as I have a standard chainset, I think I need more than 28. Then of course there is the 4 months severe training I need to put in!

If anyone has done it before, can you share your ecperiences, and let me know what gears you ran?

Silver940

3,967 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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I've not done the Whitton but some on here have, I did ride Hardknott last year though, compact chainset and a 11-32 Cassette. I used first gear! Only time ever. Probably could have pushed a 30 though if that's all I had but I'd have said unless you are very strong you want a compact 50/34 chainset for that ride and a wide range cassette, bear in mind some rear mech's won't take more than 28 teeth.


nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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I've ridden the past two years. Yes it is very tough, but the organisation, the support and the scenery are second to none. Get an entry in!

julianm

1,732 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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My son did it on a Cannondale road bike with 53/39 & a 26 low sprocket, he`s 6` 1" & around 13 1/2 stone. His mates all had compacts so he got some deserved respect for not walking!
Good luck to you - get plenty of malt loaf in stock!

Joey Ramone

2,155 posts

154 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Fred Whitton on a double. That's strong. V strong.

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Entries close tonight I believe. I fully expect it to be oversubscribed even after increasing the number of places from 1700 to 2000.

Ballot time!

Edited by nammynake on Saturday 11th January 20:26

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Not long to go now....training hasn't gone as well as I'd hoped for but I'll grind round again I suppose. Pain!!!!

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Anybody thinking about next years event?

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Yup I'll be entering but don't fancy my chances of getting a place having done the last 3 years.

It's a really fantastic ride and a genuine challenge even for the strong lads.

Fourmotion

1,032 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Yes, I'll be entering the lottery.

If I don't get it I think I'll head up there and attempt it on my own.

Steve vRS

5,393 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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I'll be entering the lottery too. First timer so hopefully I will get a chance.

Now where is that 30-12 cassette?

Steve

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Whatever gearing you have I guarantee won't be low enough ;-)

I've used a compact chainset (34/50) and 28 cassette. I am a spinner though.

Most people (more than half) end up walking Hardknott, mostly down to fitness (or rather power:weight ratio) but some are just overgeared.

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Gonna enter , either got a steel bike with 34/30 or a lighter alu bike with 39/26 as a bottom, will hopefully have a new carbon bike by then, but ideally will have a double on there.

Legs say 39/26 will be low enough, but mind says no! I think I'd be ok up Hardknott in isolation , but not after 80 or so miles . Will see what I got closer the time.

Silver940

3,967 posts

256 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Gonna enter , either got a steel bike with 34/30 or a lighter alu bike with 39/26 as a bottom, will hopefully have a new carbon bike by then, but ideally will have a double on there.

Legs say 39/26 will be low enough, but mind says no! I think I'd be ok up Hardknott in isolation , but not after 80 or so miles . Will see what I got closer the time.
39/26... good luck with that. It's a steep twisty 33% in places. I was happy I had 34/32 biggrin

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Silver940 said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
Gonna enter , either got a steel bike with 34/30 or a lighter alu bike with 39/26 as a bottom, will hopefully have a new carbon bike by then, but ideally will have a double on there.

Legs say 39/26 will be low enough, but mind says no! I think I'd be ok up Hardknott in isolation , but not after 80 or so miles . Will see what I got closer the time.
39/26... good luck with that. It's a steep twisty 33% in places. I was happy I had 34/32 biggrin
Done a few 33% climbs before and got top ten Strava places on them (not that means anything) the steeper the climb , the better I get using a 39/26, but it puts all the strain and effort through my legs, so in isolation I'd be fine, but as part of a 120 miles of climbs I'd be risking blowing up and collapsing, I'd feel a complete idiot and cant face pushing ever bar mechanical failure

TheLemming

4,319 posts

294 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I'm very tempted....

How nasty is it?

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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A friend who does 10hr Ironman's said it is hard but doable, just don't blow up.

Obviously highly weather dependent.

I am seriously considering it.

PH Team entry - 4 persons?

Gruffy

7,212 posts

288 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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What's the date? I couldn't find this on the site.

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Beginning of May usually. Just at the point where the weather can be kind, but also potentially a massive headache.

I've done it the last 3 years. First time was dry but windy, second time was heavy rain and cold, and last year was cool with a few showers but light winds. The weather can turn what is a very tough ride into a significant challenge. Two years ago dozens of riders abandoned at the second feed stop with the onset of hypothermia - this was from crossing the aptly named 'Cold Fell' in the pissing rain.

As long as you adequately prepare, 80+ miles every weekend for the prior couple of months then it's an enjoyable ride in wonderful surroundings. If you don't prepare then you'll spend 9 or 10 hours in complete misery!

Good luck to those that enter, I'll keep my eyes peeled for fellow PH riders although I'll be sporting my club's kit this time round. Aiming for sub-7 hours this time.

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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nammynake said:
Beginning of May usually. Just at the point where the weather can be kind, but also potentially a massive headache.

I've done it the last 3 years. First time was dry but windy, second time was heavy rain and cold, and last year was cool with a few showers but light winds. The weather can turn what is a very tough ride into a significant challenge. Two years ago dozens of riders abandoned at the second feed stop with the onset of hypothermia - this was from crossing the aptly named 'Cold Fell' in the pissing rain.

As long as you adequately prepare, 80+ miles every weekend for the prior couple of months then it's an enjoyable ride in wonderful surroundings. If you don't prepare then you'll spend 9 or 10 hours in complete misery!

Good luck to those that enter, I'll keep my eyes peeled for fellow PH riders although I'll be sporting my club's kit this time round. Aiming for sub-7 hours this time.
Is that 1 no 80+ mile per weekend, or 2 No 40+ rides? I cannot afford that sort of time on the weekends, so it will be a 10hr sufferfest!