LaFerrari Race Car
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BraveSirRobin

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845 posts

306 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Autocar showing photos of a race car based on the LaFerrari testing at Fiorano:

Curious what they intend to do with this as it seems to fall between LMP & GT3?

DanielSan

19,830 posts

191 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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LaFXX?

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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DanielSan said:
LaFXX?
LaMP1

confucuis

1,331 posts

148 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Could this be what Di Montezemolo was refering to a couple of weeks back when he was talking about a return to Le Mans for Ferrari?

Allyc85

7,225 posts

210 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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La F1 engine test mule?

matrignano

4,674 posts

234 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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F1 engine test mule x2

Rear end looks way too long for being a standard LaF's chassis.
Also look at the massive air intake, exhaust pods etc.

A standard looking LaF testing the F1 engine was also previously spotted and filmed at Fiorano.

Good way for Ferrari to cheekily circumvent F1 testing mileage limits...

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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PW said:
Munter said:
LaMP1
I doubt there's a single part on that car that meets any P1 regulation.
The rumour was it was it might be testing LMP1 drivetrain as LdM was rambling recently about entering "another high profile race series".

Though f1 engine test mule seems more likely.

McClure

2,173 posts

170 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Is that Alonso's helmet?

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Surely a test mule of some description. Wheelbase and mass distribution looks way wrong for a road car!

zac510

5,546 posts

230 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Is the autocar article correct in saying that it's illegal to run the engine in a mule?
I don't see what's different running it in that car compared to running it on the dynamometer.

This thing is clearly not an F1 car.

chevronb37

6,472 posts

210 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Very interesting. Any video out there of it? Does have a strong whiff of LMP about it...

fatboy69

9,424 posts

211 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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zac510 said:
Is the autocar article correct in saying that it's illegal to run the engine in a mule?
I don't see what's different running it in that car compared to running it on the dynamometer.

This thing is clearly not an F1 car.
Yes, it is illegal but who is going to be able to prove that Ferrari, or anyone else for that matter, are testing the new F1 engine in development mules?

Personally i dont care - if they are doing that then fair to play to them for being clever enough to do it. If they arent doing some sly F1 engine and they getting ready to go back to Le Mans then i am all for it.

Either way it looks interesting.

tom0507

37 posts

250 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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McClure said:
Is that Alonso's helmet?
No, it's being driven by Andrea Bertolini.

What ever the car is for, it's running a hybrid/KERS powertrain indicated by the yellow warning triangle on the side.

chevronb37

6,472 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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PW said:
chevronb37 said:
Does have a strong whiff of LMP about it...
All other LMP cars are 100% bespoke. How can anything that is clearly a modified road car be "LMP-like"?

As a test mule for an LMP1/F1 drivetrain, I can't see why it makes any more sense to test in a road car with a big wing than it does to test it in the regular road car; both are massively different to that application. It would make more sense to do what Honda allegedly have done and use an actual prototype chassis - AF Corse, the Ferrari "factory" GT team, have experience with Pecom's P2 entries.

Speaking of GT - I have seen a suggestion it could be something to do with the future GT Plus regulations - much more reasonable than the LMP/F1 ideas - but Ferrari haven't built their own GT cars for several decades, which makes me doubtful. I haven't seen anything about those regulations, so I don't know what the aim of them is. This looks a bit like an old GT1 car, but previous GT1 rules allowing for such drastic modification to the base models never really worked out; it seems unusual to try and repeat that formula, another reason I question that possibility.

A road car-based race/track special that isn't built to anyone's rule book... Sounds like an XX car. IMHO, of all the proposed explanations I have seen, it seems the most logical and reasonable so far. Or it could be something else entirely.
Crikey, buddy, calm down. I was making a speculative internet comment.

I'm unaware of any regulations which would permit anything of these proportions to compete. I don't believe it is an LMP1 car, but as it doesn't look like a GTE, GT3, road car or even, heaven forbid a DP then it's hard to see what else it might be. The rear end detailing around the wing and the exhausts is facile so there's no clever LMP1 aero going on but given the very non-street roof scoop and cabin position it has the proportions of a current LMP car.

I agree that it is most likely an XX car but as a means of testing an LMP1 drivetrain I think it's credible, though highly unlikely, honestly.

Whatever it is, it's nice to know it's out there. And it could quite plausibly be a Michelotto project. Last time I was at Maranello there were GTE 430s pounding round all day so the facility is used for that purpose.

Silver940

3,967 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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More fuel for the F1 Test mule fire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXNLQQC_AGU

zebedee

4,593 posts

302 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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chevronb37 said:
Last time I was at Maranello there were GTE 430s pounding round all day so the facility is used for that purpose.
458s surely?

chevronb37

6,472 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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zebedee said:
chevronb37 said:
Last time I was at Maranello there were GTE 430s pounding round all day so the facility is used for that purpose.
458s surely?
Seven years ago so it was the F430 GTC I saw testing. There were several out - maybe three or four. I think officially it was intended for GT2 at that time but the continuity of that category is, of course, GTE. I hope I pass the pedantry test ;-)

Oh and I say that like I'm down at Maranello every other week. I've been twice but last time it was September 2006.