2012 car with delivery mileage

[shopper150]

I've noticed a car for sale that was registered in 2012 that still has delivery mileage on it. The trader wants around 30% off the list price for it.

How much do you think I can get away with offering him for it? I'm assuming he will make a loss on it.
How big a loss would traders stomach?

[Northernchimp]

About 774% of 1.3m CHF

Impossible to answer without knowing what it is.

[R I C H]

Haggle until he'll go no lower. That's the only way you'll know. How can anyone else know his margin or motivation to shift it?

FWIW I purchased a 2009 Yamaha WR450 this summer that had been sat on the showroom floor for 3+ years. I saved about 35% on a current model. What profit the dealer made is irrelevant, I was happy with the price differential.

[poing]

He won't make a loss on it, he would have already shifted it on within the dealer network etc if he was going to make a loss.

I suspect you will struggle to get much more off if it's already 30% down.

[shopper150]

A new one is available at 20% off from a dealer. He's not an official dealer and its 18 months old already.

[Northernchimp]

Is it a Seat or Skoda?

[Wills2]

shopper150 said:

A new one is available at 20% off from a dealer. He's not an official dealer and its 18 months old already.

No point discussing it here, call the guy up and start talking to him then go down there and try and do a deal.

That way you WILL find out.


HTH.

[shopper150]

No, it's in the class of AUDI/BMW/MERC/LEXUS

[shopper150]

Wills2 said:

No point discussing it here, call the guy up and start talking to him then go down there and try and do a deal.

That way you WILL find out.


HTH.

Thanks. Just wanted to be prepared, and I know there are many experienced traders on here!

[Northernchimp]

shopper150 said:

No, it's in the class of AUDI/BMW/MERC/LEXUS

Why not just say what it is, rather than just list what it isn't? If you subtly point to it somebody might CAP it for you.

And I'm guessing.... Volvo S60

[Welshbeef]

Northernchimp said:

shopper150 said:

No, it's in the class of AUDI/BMW/MERC/LEXUS

Why not just say what it is, rather than just list what it isn't? If you subtly point to it somebody might CAP it for you.

And I'm guessing.... Volvo S60

Possibly as he is thinking someone else might be on the lookout and snap it up or wants to take brand out of the question

[Northernchimp]

Welshbeef said:

Northernchimp said:

shopper150 said:

No, it's in the class of AUDI/BMW/MERC/LEXUS

Why not just say what it is, rather than just list what it isn't? If you subtly point to it somebody might CAP it for you.

And I'm guessing.... Volvo S60

Possibly as he is thinking someone else might be on the lookout and snap it up or wants to take brand out of the question

I did think of that, but surely the people on Auto Trader are a bigger threat than us. If its so alluring that he daren't link it then it should be purchased at once, before somebody who cares sees it.

[daemon]

shopper150 said:

I've noticed a car for sale that was registered in 2012 that still has delivery mileage on it. The trader wants around 30% off the list price for it.

How much do you think I can get away with offering him for it? I'm assuming he will make a loss on it.
How big a loss would traders stomach?

Why would you assume a trader is going to want to take a loss on it?

Also, you're buying a two year old car, not a new one. It just has exceptionally low miles. Value it as a two year old with low miles. Suddenly your 30% off list doesnt sound very cheap?

[shopper150]

I'm hesitant to link to the vehicle for the reasons stated.

It is one of the brands I have listed. And it's at the upper end of the range.

I think it should be a lot cheaper than 30% off as 50% of the manufacturer warranty has already passed. Brand new is available at 20% off.

I know many experienced traders/negotiators are on here, so just seeking good advice without upsetting the trader by making silly offers to the trader.

[shopper150]

daemon said:

Why would you assume a trader is going to want to take a loss on it?

Also, you're buying a two year old car, not a new one. It just has exceptionally low miles. Value it as a two year old with low miles. Suddenly your 30% off list doesnt sound very cheap?

I don't think it's cheap at all. That's why I'm asking how much of a loss people think traders will make. He's advertising at 30% off, and hence he must be expecting near that price. I don't think it's worth anywhere near the price.

[daemon]

shopper150 said:

I'm hesitant to link to the vehicle for the reasons stated.

It is one of the brands I have listed. And it's at the upper end of the range.

I think it should be a lot cheaper than 30% off as 50% of the manufacturer warranty has already passed. Brand new is available at 20% off.

I know many experienced traders/negotiators are on here, so just seeking good advice without upsetting the trader by making silly offers to the trader.

He probably has around £3-4K margin on it, and will probably want to work to £2,500-£3,500 to make it worth his while selling.

[shopper150]

daemon said:

He probably has around £3-4K margin on it, and will probably want to work to £2,500-£3,500 to make it worth his while selling.

Even removing his margin, it's still way overpriced. Hence why I am asking if people think he will take a loss on the deal.

[Momentofmadness]

It's a used (technically ) 2012 model, so make your offer on that basis.

[Backtobasics]

Just buy a new one.

[IS200RJR]

Not sure i would want a car that has just been sitting around with oil and fuel, battery not being used will it not cause problems at a later date ?