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in the paper yesterday cost of housing new secure prisoners - £ 55,000 a year - cost of normal one £ 28,000 a year. does this piss anyone else off? would be cheaper to lock them up in a travelodge - make them work to pay off the money - why does my street have grafetti on it when prisoners etc could tidy up the neighbourhood for free?
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in the paper yesterday cost of housing new secure prisoners - £ 55,000 a year - cost of normal one £ 28,000 a year. does this piss anyone else off? would be cheaper to lock them up in a travelodge - make them work to pay off the money - why does my street have grafetti on it when prisoners etc could tidy up the neighbourhood for free?
You have my vote!!
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As the voice of reason, i would argue against installing prisoners in Travel lodges, as no crime can justify this
>> Edited by s_willy on Monday 15th July 13:18
Its that sort of liberal thinking that has got this country in the state it is today.. I say send 'em to travellodges, best place for them
>> Edited by dan on Monday 15th July 13:54
What this country needs to combat rising crime and unsocial behavior,is a deterent with teeth. If we were not to lock up criminals, but shoot the fu
ers, I think you would see a marked improvement very quickly indeed. I'm going to stand well back now and await the torade of namby pamby liberals, bleeting on about human rights. Criminals lose any rights they had by becoming criminals!
>> Edited by Simonelite501 on Tuesday 16th July 12:24
ers, I think you would see a marked improvement very quickly indeed. I'm going to stand well back now and await the torade of namby pamby liberals, bleeting on about human rights. Criminals lose any rights they had by becoming criminals! >> Edited by Simonelite501 on Tuesday 16th July 12:24
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What this country needs to combat rising crime and unsocial behavior,is a deterent with teeth. If we were not to lock up criminals, but shoot the fu
>> Edited by Simonelite501 on Tuesday 16th July 12:24
Ummmmm - speeding is a crime - wot punishment shall we have for that?? Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but lets make it clear just what type of "criminal" we are talking about - a sort of definition of "hard" crime and "soft" crime..
Hard crime gets the "shoot the f
ers" option, soft crime gets to clean the streets.... Mind you, with the number of speeding tickets we get, the streets would be bloomin clean by now!
>> Edited by mondeoman on Tuesday 16th July 12:38
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in the paper yesterday cost of housing new secure prisoners - £ 55,000 a year - cost of normal one £ 28,000 a year. does this piss anyone else off? would be cheaper to lock them up in a travelodge - make them work to pay off the money - why does my street have grafetti on it when prisoners etc could tidy up the neighbourhood for free?
Sounds like a good idea, chain them together give them a brush and paint and they can paint over the graffiti, and if they dont want to work, they dont get any dinner. Basic rations unless they work
Hell we could even get them to sort the post, might save a few bob and cant be worse than the current situation..
Against their human rights?? sorry they gave them up when they became criminals
Ummmmm - speeding is a crime - wot punishment shall we have for that?? Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but lets make it clear just what type of "criminal" we are talking about - a sort of definition of "hard" crime and "soft" crime..
No, Although speeding is seen a crime, it should IMO have a new classification as Inapropriate speed is a crime, and then we can shoot those Fu
ers who blast through my village as well!quote:
Ummmmm - speeding is a crime - wot punishment shall we have for that?? Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but lets make it clear just what type of "criminal" we are talking about - a sort of definition of "hard" crime and "soft" crime..
No, Although speeding is seen a crime, it should IMO have a new classification as Inapropriate speed is a crime, and then we can shoot those Fu
ers who blast through my village as well! Speeding IS NOT A CRIME its only a motoring offence and according to EU law cannot be put on a "crime" sheet/record............ lets talk about things inthe correct manner chaps, what eh??? jolly jodphurs and all that, what?
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What this country needs to combat rising crime and unsocial behavior,is a deterent with teeth
Esther Rantzen?
LOL.
Instead of having prisons for these offenders I have a good use for the disused coal mines. Place them in down in their sub world environment ( ref Loguns Run ) and lower them down food occasionally. That'll learn em.
God forbid any of you lot ever get convicted of a serious crime...
I think you possibly need to balance your opinions ever so slightly. Suppose in an argument with one of these allegded scotes one day - you punch them - they fall hit there head and die.
If you count man slaughter as a serious crime then I guess you are up for being shot too...
Thats the trouble with laws - they either need to apply to everyone regardless - or you have to give judges more discretionary powers - which they are losing at the moment with many more 'mandatory' terms for punishment.
Personally I like the idea - first crime - fine + community service - second crime = fine + comunity service + weekend attendence at open jail
thrid crime minimum five years in jail
additionally crimes could be grade as a 1 2 3 in terms of severity - ie a firearms offence - go straight to level three etc
much simpler !
I think you possibly need to balance your opinions ever so slightly. Suppose in an argument with one of these allegded scotes one day - you punch them - they fall hit there head and die.
If you count man slaughter as a serious crime then I guess you are up for being shot too...
Thats the trouble with laws - they either need to apply to everyone regardless - or you have to give judges more discretionary powers - which they are losing at the moment with many more 'mandatory' terms for punishment.
Personally I like the idea - first crime - fine + community service - second crime = fine + comunity service + weekend attendence at open jail
thrid crime minimum five years in jail
additionally crimes could be grade as a 1 2 3 in terms of severity - ie a firearms offence - go straight to level three etc
much simpler !
The only way to reduce crime levels is to introduce stiffer punishments. Many US states have the death penalty and whilst I concede the fact that the law must get the right person before the punishment there's plenty of time to do so - many crims on death row have to wait years to ride the lightning.
The government keep coming up with new initiatives to waste money and make a big show of doing something positive, but all that needs to be done is reduce to attraction of crime. A mugger can twat an old lady to death to nick a fiver from her purse, complain about having a tough childhood and get six months in a holiday home. Give the scab ten years in a proper prison and he might not bother.
The government keep coming up with new initiatives to waste money and make a big show of doing something positive, but all that needs to be done is reduce to attraction of crime. A mugger can twat an old lady to death to nick a fiver from her purse, complain about having a tough childhood and get six months in a holiday home. Give the scab ten years in a proper prison and he might not bother.
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I think you possibly need to balance your opinions ever so slightly. Suppose in an argument with one of these allegded scotes one day - you punch them - they fall hit there head and die.
Let me add something: thug attacks you with knife, you punch them, they fall over & die. You've done the world a favour. Do you really think they will worry about what happens to you? report to police for medal presentation ceremony for serving the public trust.
What point were you trying to make?
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The only way to reduce crime levels is to introduce stiffer punishments. Many US states have the death penalty and whilst I concede the fact that the law must get the right person before the punishment there's plenty of time to do so - many crims on death row have to wait years to ride the lightning.
The government keep coming up with new initiatives to waste money and make a big show of doing something positive, but all that needs to be done is reduce to attraction of crime. A mugger can twat an old lady to death to nick a fiver from her purse, complain about having a tough childhood and get six months in a holiday home. Give the scab ten years in a proper prison and he might not bother.
10 years? so the tax payer has to pay £280k for this scrote instead of money going to hospitals etc - make him work off the crime not lounge around in prison
Hertsbiker
Hmm - thats what always happens is it ? just like the chap who asked some teenagers to turn the music down and got a gob full of abuse, he clearly felt threatened so he punched one, now being prosecuted for ABH and has had to pay compensation to his Victim.
Or the Tony Martin case, appreciate slightly differentdue to firearms being involved
In any case my point was crime isn't always clear cut, circumstances and interpretation can make YOU a criminal, at which point a fair and equitable justice system makes sense
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The only way to reduce crime levels is to introduce stiffer punishments.
Proof of this was the soccer world cup... how many football rowdies tried to make a ruckus, how many in prison.... NONE because they knew they'd get slammed VERY HARD so the scum didn't bother.
If a mugger knew that he's going to get 5 years hard labour, and only gets food that he's earned (paid for with his hard labour) then there'll be little mugging........
And by the way PUNISHMENT, not recuperation from the stress of living is the solution. The buggers should SUFFER for what they do and NOT get a paid holiday/education in crime....... give me the little scrotes for 6 months in a military jail and I can guarantee they'll never offend (or get caught) again!
>> Edited by JMGS4 on Wednesday 17th July 14:03
Sad but true, when at university as a poor student we had a quite serious discussion on what a criminal record would do to your employability as getting banged up for three years and studying remotely seemed a more attractive option that living in a damp flat without sufficient funds for 3 meals a day.
The fact that we even considered it tells me something is wrong.
The fact that we even considered it tells me something is wrong.
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