Startmonkey 400 jump start pack
Startmonkey 400 jump start pack
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ToneyCaroney

Original Poster:

1,080 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Anyone encountered one of these? Second flat battery of the winter and no electricity in my garage has prompted me to consider one. But before I shell out £200, any reason why I shouldn't? It's for a Griff 500 btw.

https://www.powertraveller.com/en/shop/portable-ch...

Cheers.

330p4

668 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Stuart ideally you do not want your battery discharging completely flat as eventually you will get a cell reversal and the battery will be shot. Why not fit a battery brain there are threads about it on here but once the battery discharges to a preset level it switches the battery of so there is enough to start or get the remote control one so once you have locked the car you can remotely isolate the battery approx 80 pounds

ToneyCaroney

Original Poster:

1,080 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Hi, 330. Thanks for replying. I know you speak sense but for some reason my insurance company are not keen on the battery brain so it is a non starter (no pun intended!).

Inevitably, this means that occasionally the battery runs flat and I can't really see a way around that this winter. I should be moved into a more Griff friendly place later in the year but until then I am wondering whether this will suffice to start the car?

330p4

668 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Stuart is this because the alarm/immobiliser would be off ? If so it won't work with a flat battery and my Griff will only go for 3 weeks before it is flat also as soon as the battery is restored on battery brain alarm is set. I can see you changing the car battery more than once. Change your insurance company ?
Ian

Sardonicus

19,393 posts

247 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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You will rapidly lose even a new battery keep letting it discharge completely and your alternator will not thank you keep starting the car with a heavily discharged battery to charge, as mentioned I know of no alarm immobilizer you can bypass by reconnecting the battery so your car is never unprotected by the disconnection method other than the alarm will not sound scratchchin

Hoover.

5,993 posts

268 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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if it discharges like my batteries used to they are fried and will not jump start,,,,, hadn't used my giff for 2.5 months battery dead, tried to jump start off of running 4l jeep cherokee, and it just pulled the power down on that and stalled it..... isolator or brain drain

steveT350C

6,728 posts

187 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Solar powered trickle charger?

ToneyCaroney

Original Poster:

1,080 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Ok, thanks chaps I think I get the message!
I'll talk to my insurers about battery brain again and see what their objection is.
stevet350c, thanks for the suggestion. I had considered this option. Unfortunately, my griff is currently living in a rented garage where I can't really hook up a solar charger (well, not if I ever want to see it again!).
Temporary situation though so if I can scrape through for a few months all will be well again!

Cheers, Stuart

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

177 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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330p4 said:
Change your insurance company ?
+1
I have never been asked any such questions or had such 'rules' applied by my insurers.
Absurd, unhelpful, and not worth saving a few pounds for IMO.
Good luck with them (or finding a new insurer).


frenchie TVR

294 posts

201 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Batery Barin all the way, had it fitter for 3 years and not had an issue since!

ToneyCaroney

Original Poster:

1,080 posts

210 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Ok chaps, I have had a lengthy discussion with increasingly senior members of my insurer (who are a specialist company, btw). My policy stipulates that under normal circumstances (i.e not a breakdown) the alarm and immobilizer must be working and, by default, when the Battery Brain kicks in, it isn't.

While this logic may be flawed in this situation, it is nevertheless there in the policy in black and white. Whether the insurer has specifically mentioned Battery Brain or not, it seems, is not relevant. It is the disabling of the security systems that will (potentially)invalidate the insurance cover. Proceed with caution!

Looks like I'm just going to have to use the griff more!









MikeE

1,851 posts

310 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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You're moving house?!?!?!


ToneyCaroney

Original Poster:

1,080 posts

210 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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As it turns out, not yet Mike. Had to pull an offer for a place this morning because it's on brink of being flooded by the Thames! Shame because it has a very nice double garage but that's no good if it's full of water.... So we'll have to start looking again.

Meanwhile the griff is off to fernies again this weekend for a niggle or two to be sorted. Let me know if you are around.