Another question form a stranger

[dema]

With the recent article on PH on the new JCW I guess that traffic in this part of the forum will increase.
In my case, I'm getting a bit bored of my current car (unfortunately it does happen every couple of years)and I'm now slowly looking into the next step.
I've seen the Clubman JWC and it does look interesting, but can only see 1 on sale for 26K which is way too much! Are those really rare or so good that no one is selling?
An alternative would be the standard JWC (R56?) but I don't think I'll be able to fit much in it

[DanGT]

There are not many about, I would look at the S as the JCW is nice but that much diffrent from the S that it is not woth looking at. The reviews are mixed form what I have seen.

[dema]

Thanks Dan,
Review seesm to prefer the clubman on handling as it is less twichy on Uk roads.
I guess that you can fit the JCW suspension and brakes to the S and get a remap to achieve the same end result.

[rigga]

Aside from the different engine internals and Turbo on the jcw

[cookingrussell]

Buy the works. You wont regret it.

[cookingrussell]

Buy the works. You wont regret it.

[cookingrussell]

Buy the works. You wont regret it.

[dema]

^ I think you made your point LOL. Got to work out the boot space on the normal JCW


Thanks Rigga lots to learn for me

[rigga]

Boot is small on the hatchback for sure, but with the rear seats down you would be surprised how much you can actually get in thee with ease, obviously useless if you NEED to carry rear passenger's and a load at the same time, but then you would want a bigger car anyway.

[dema]

Correct. Only 2 of us, hardly have any other passenger, the boot is only use for the monthly food shopping, the odd Ikea or garden centre trip and suitcases when we go on holiday.
Started looking around the Mini2 forum to get an idea of things, JCW seems to suffer of some sort of engine issues due not enough oil mainly when cold?
Currently driving a Giulietta which I find very good but now fancy a change for some "go-karty" with more (a fair nit more) low end torque

[rigga]

N14 engine in the cooper s and jcw have a few known issues that may crop up and you need to be aware of
High pressure fuel pump failures
Cam chain tensioner issues causing " cold start death rattle "(I think not helped by the fact the engine likes to consume oil 1ltr per 1k is deemed OK by mini)
Being direct injection and therefore no fuel gets near the inlet valves they can suffer from coking up (relative economical remidy available by walnut blasting for @ £250)

[DanGT]

I would test drive both and see what you like. There as said a lot of parts changed but it is slightly faster and harder suspention. You may find the S is ok for what you want or you may feel the extra is worth it. The only whay to find out is to try them both.

[dema]

Thanks Dan, I definetley need to do some window shopping.

I went for "lesser" models in the past and ended up wishing that I had the level up.