Tvr grantura mk1 on the bay
Discussion
plasticpig72 said:
i thought the triumph 6 cylinder engine was first used in 1966/7 on gt6 or vitesse.
this car is 1959!
Correct this car is 1959!
Not that I am any expert but I have watched probably most cars that have sold over the last few years and when you compare you have to question the sellers optimistic price.
Wrong engine and the changes that will have been made to fit that wrong seats and who knows what else is not correct requires a full restoration.
I would compare it to the car David Gerald sold on e bay last year and this car requires stripping and parts that are not there in comparison obviously must be restored as they are beautiful cars but if the seller really wants to see that happen then the price must allow the purchaser to do so IMOP ?
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prideaux said:
Correct
Not that I am any expert but I have watched probably most cars that have sold over the last few years and when you compare you have to question the sellers optimistic price.
Wrong engine and the changes that will have been made to fit that wrong seats and who knows what else is not correct requires a full restoration.
I would compare it to the car David Gerald sold on e bay last year and this car requires stripping and parts that are not there in comparison obviously must be restored as they are beautiful cars but if the seller really wants to see that happen then the price must allow the purchaser to do so IMOP ?
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Incorrect.Not that I am any expert but I have watched probably most cars that have sold over the last few years and when you compare you have to question the sellers optimistic price.
Wrong engine and the changes that will have been made to fit that wrong seats and who knows what else is not correct requires a full restoration.
I would compare it to the car David Gerald sold on e bay last year and this car requires stripping and parts that are not there in comparison obviously must be restored as they are beautiful cars but if the seller really wants to see that happen then the price must allow the purchaser to do so IMOP ?
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The six cylinder dates to 1960 and was first installed in a vanguard six, later Vitesse in 62 and 2000 in about 63/64
engine however dates to 1960.
it may well have been an original install or very early transplant if kit built??
People have fitted ford side valves, climax engines and all sorts of period fodder to these over the years.
I wonder what future piston headers will make of LS engined T350's in 50 years time??
As a TVR it is rarer than most based upon numbers sold and made..Its funny how some are considered desirable and some aren't.. Prideaux as a true enthusiast I would have expected that you would be chomping at the bit to own a proper wilkinson built car??
Edited by heightswitch on Saturday 18th January 13:58
heightswitch said:
Incorrect.
The six cylinder dates to 1960 and was first installed in a vanguard six, later Vitesse in 62 and 2000 in about 63/64
engine however dates to 1960.
it may well have been an original install or very early transplant if kit built??
People have fitted ford side valves, climax engines and all sorts of period fodder to these over the years.
I wonder what future piston headers will make of LS engined T350's in 50 years time??
As a TVR it is rarer than most based upon numbers sold and made..Its funny how some are considered desirable and some aren't.. Prideaux as a true enthusiast I would have expected that you would be chomping at the bit to own a proper wilkinson built car??
The six cylinder dates to 1960 and was first installed in a vanguard six, later Vitesse in 62 and 2000 in about 63/64
engine however dates to 1960.
it may well have been an original install or very early transplant if kit built??
People have fitted ford side valves, climax engines and all sorts of period fodder to these over the years.
I wonder what future piston headers will make of LS engined T350's in 50 years time??
As a TVR it is rarer than most based upon numbers sold and made..Its funny how some are considered desirable and some aren't.. Prideaux as a true enthusiast I would have expected that you would be chomping at the bit to own a proper wilkinson built car??
Edited by heightswitch on Saturday 18th January 13:59
You Developed that stammer we all get from time to time
When I said correct I was referring to it not being fitted in a MK1 Grantura but great to know the history of the current engine
Regards a Wilkinson built car yes your right its on the list right time right car and it will appear just don't hold your breath
Gamekeepers old Dame or his Grantura would be beautiful just not the right time need more storage first
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Edited by prideaux on Saturday 18th January 14:06
prideaux said:
You Developed that stammer we all get from time to time
When I said correct I was referring to it not being fitted in a MK1 Grantura but great to know the history of the current engine
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These cars were kit built don't forget..
A lot think that TVR's were never fitted with Daimler V8's, Lotus twin cams, BDA's Alfa Twin Cams as well but some were…..
heightswitch said:
Except it exists and is fitted to a MK1 grantura..
These cars were kit built don't forget..
A lot think that TVR's were never fitted with Daimler V8's, Lotus twin cams, BDA's Alfa Twin Cams as well but some were…..
Fair CommentThese cars were kit built don't forget..
A lot think that TVR's were never fitted with Daimler V8's, Lotus twin cams, BDA's Alfa Twin Cams as well but some were…..
But still makes the OLD DAME a fantastic opportunity in comparison
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heightswitch said:
Except it exists and is fitted to a MK1 grantura..
These cars were kit built don't forget..
A lot think that TVR's were never fitted with Daimler V8's, Lotus twin cams, BDA's Alfa Twin Cams as well but some were…..
Nope, sorry...not all MKIs were kits. This is a large myth.These cars were kit built don't forget..
A lot think that TVR's were never fitted with Daimler V8's, Lotus twin cams, BDA's Alfa Twin Cams as well but some were…..
Nope, again....side valve fords, bmc and climax power were all options on the very early Grantura. Should find it hard to belive that this lump was original...have a word with the owner...this car way produced in the middle of the run.
Many Granturas have been re powered through the years, but that does not mean it is period correct.
Not sure about the modern cars..
Grantura MKI said:
Nope, sorry...not all MKIs were kits. This is a large myth.
Nope, again....side valve fords, bmc and climax power were all options on the very early Grantura. Should find it hard to belive that this lump was original...have a word with the owner...this car way produced in the middle of the run.
Many Granturas have been re powered through the years, but that does not mean it is period correct.
Not sure about the modern cars..
Of course its period correct. Its a 59 car with a 60's engine. Nope, again....side valve fords, bmc and climax power were all options on the very early Grantura. Should find it hard to belive that this lump was original...have a word with the owner...this car way produced in the middle of the run.
Many Granturas have been re powered through the years, but that does not mean it is period correct.
Not sure about the modern cars..
I never said it was original. I just said that these cars were built as kits I didn't say "all" of these cars
before you nit pick some more. lots means a small but significant proportion of the 100 or so originally built.
It was possibly re-powered, possibly supplied as a kit, possibly had its more expensive climax engine robbed for a more exotic car…
Their is no set standard for these cars. having a straight 6 engine merely adds to its story.
heightswitch said:
Grantura MKI said:
Nope, sorry...not all MKIs were kits. This is a large myth.
Nope, again....side valve fords, bmc and climax power were all options on the very early Grantura. Should find it hard to belive that this lump was original...have a word with the owner...this car way produced in the middle of the run.
Many Granturas have been re powered through the years, but that does not mean it is period correct.
Not sure about the modern cars..
Of course its period correct. Its a 59 car with a 60's engine. Nope, again....side valve fords, bmc and climax power were all options on the very early Grantura. Should find it hard to belive that this lump was original...have a word with the owner...this car way produced in the middle of the run.
Many Granturas have been re powered through the years, but that does not mean it is period correct.
Not sure about the modern cars..
I never said it was original. I just said that these cars were built as kits I didn't say "all" of these cars
before you nit pick some more. lots means a small but significant proportion of the 100 or so originally built.
It was possibly re-powered, possibly supplied as a kit, possibly had its more expensive climax engine robbed for a more exotic car…
Their is no set standard for these cars. having a straight 6 engine merely adds to its story.
More than likely you are correct, I would think that it was ford powered, as most were in the early days.
There is a standard to Granturas....next thing will be rack and pinion steering being correct on a 1959?
Cheers,
D.
alphaone said:
I was wondering what the original engine would have been so asked about the chassis number - it seems to not have one recorded against it.
Maybe an engine was purchased separately by an enthusiastic amateur kit builder someone may well have fitted the LS engine of the day!!as I said before no set standard.. Just because 30-40 left the factory as an e93 side valve ford engine doesn't make the rest non original. They all have stories to tell and the fact is that No One knows what is totally original or otherwise. its an old car with an old engine that would be a great project for someone to build into something to cherish. That even goes for rack and pinion Steering..unlikely yes, impossible definitely not…
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Grantura MKI said:
E93? 100e or 105e. I find that people that do not like standard are not willing to do things correctly and take short cuts.
Enjoy your evening,
D.
I think you will find that the E93 Tin Lissie, Oft referred to as the 103E Popular was in production from 53 - 59 and was the first production model to be fitted with the water pump derivative of the side valve engine which was also introduced into the 100e etc and after all it is a 59 car we are talking about.Enjoy your evening,
D.
Off back in the garage now to cut some more corners
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