Motorway suicide train
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Don't you just hate it when you realise you have joined a 'suicide train'? Know what I mean? Some driver up front is way too close to the next car and is always on the brakes?
Sometimes I'll just drop back even further (assuming some berk doesn't pull into this safety zone), othertimes it can be best to change lane and let some other person take care care of it.
What goes on in their confused little minds that makes them think a half second gap is okay? Surely their brakes must wear down very rapidly.
It gets unnerving when you are acclimatised to seeing brake lights crying wolf all the time, then find real need to brake.. And you've been suckered into the suicide train as well. A one way ticket to stress and heart attack, or just twisted metal.
Suicide trains, better get off them before it kills you.
Sometimes I'll just drop back even further (assuming some berk doesn't pull into this safety zone), othertimes it can be best to change lane and let some other person take care care of it.
What goes on in their confused little minds that makes them think a half second gap is okay? Surely their brakes must wear down very rapidly.
It gets unnerving when you are acclimatised to seeing brake lights crying wolf all the time, then find real need to brake.. And you've been suckered into the suicide train as well. A one way ticket to stress and heart attack, or just twisted metal.
Suicide trains, better get off them before it kills you.
I usually find it's cos car no 2 is trying to bully the one in front into pulling over by climbing into his/her boot.
Brakes on a motorway are for major changes in speed, such as an emergency, not for maintaining a position 3ft from the car in front.
Best off well away from it, leave a good gap, let them be fools in their own time.
Brakes on a motorway are for major changes in speed, such as an emergency, not for maintaining a position 3ft from the car in front.
Best off well away from it, leave a good gap, let them be fools in their own time.
Devil2575 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Isn't it odd that you always see the shunts in the outside lanes where the best drivers are and rarely in the inside lane when the stupid people slow people drive
Never understood it myself
Amazing isn't it Never understood it myself
McWigglebum4th said:
Isn't it odd that you always see the shunts in the outside lanes where the best drivers are and rarely in the inside lane when the stupid people slow people drive
MCWB4, I hope that you will not mind - I have quoted that in the current thread about BRAKE, to satirise the notion that all of us super fabulous expert fast drivers are flawless. I'm sure many others can repeat this experience, my short motorway commute see's me join at J29 of the M1 and leave at 29a, never clocked it, be 4-5 miles maybe, I get on watch all the guys behind me on the slip road make the dash to lane 3, I generally sit in lane 1 for the duration and nine times out of ten leave the motorway still ahead of the guys that made the dash for lane 3.
1441 said:
I'm sure many others can repeat this experience, my short motorway commute see's me join at J29 of the M1 and leave at 29a, never clocked it, be 4-5 miles maybe, I get on watch all the guys behind me on the slip road make the dash to lane 3, I generally sit in lane 1 for the duration and nine times out of ten leave the motorway still ahead of the guys that made the dash for lane 3.
Yep, it's idiotic behaviour and the surprising thing is, they will make that mistake on each and every commute.Baffling really.
McWigglebum4th said:
Isn't it odd that you always see the shunts in the outside lanes where the best drivers are and rarely in the inside lane when the stupid people slow people drive
Never understood it myself
yeah years ago pride and pigheadedness would have made me close the gap but its a stupid thing to do.if you drop back and allow lane 2 drivers in they dont get the satisfaction of forcing their way in which I swear some do get given a chance.let em duck and dive......theyll be up the bum of the car in front.youll live longer than them Never understood it myself
I've got into the habit of pulling across into lane 2 or 1, at the first sensible & safe opportunity, whenever I find myself stuck behind one of these trains during an attempted overtake. Invariably, I find I make better progress in the "slow" lanes... I'm trying to train myself to spot them earlier so I don't find myself moving into their wakes.
marshalla said:
I've got into the habit of pulling across into lane 2 or 1 whenever I find myself stuck behind one of these trains during an attempted overtake. Invariably, I find I make better progress in the "slow" lanes... I'm trying to train myself to spot them earlier so I don't find myself moving into their wakes.
I do the same. However, I'm increasingly concerned that any following police would consider this an active manoeuvre to pass on the inside (and as such attract a driving without due care penalty). g3org3y said:
I do the same. However, I'm increasingly concerned that any following police would consider this an active manoeuvre to pass on the inside (and as such attract a driving without due care penalty).
Hnce my addition of "sensible and safe" to the description of the opportunity - a multi-factored evaluation 
However, I'd rather be in a position to discuss my decision with a traffic officer than become part of someone else's incident.This is why as soon as it gets busy I drop down to 60 and stay in the left hand lane. I really can't be arsed with it anymore, and it gives me a laugh watching all the alpha-male photocopier salesmen having a lane 3 bunfight.
I've been doing Milnrow <-> Leeds over the M62 for the 60% (guess)of the last 22 years and I can report that by the time I come off the motorway at Leeds very often the same cars are still battling out in lane 3 within sight of me. What with all the slamming on of brakes etc their average speed is no different.
I've been doing Milnrow <-> Leeds over the M62 for the 60% (guess)of the last 22 years and I can report that by the time I come off the motorway at Leeds very often the same cars are still battling out in lane 3 within sight of me. What with all the slamming on of brakes etc their average speed is no different.
g3org3y said:
I do the same. However, I'm increasingly concerned that any following police would consider this an active manoeuvre to pass on the inside (and as such attract a driving without due care penalty).
Purely a personal opinion but if having moved left you don't then make a positive speed increase to hoof it up the inside but make some reasonable attempt to match speed of traffic to your right and maintain this for some indeterminate distance you will be OK.If you then undertake a vehicle or two due mainly their reduction of speed what can be the issue with that?
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