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Probably pure speculation. Would be a shame, but great for values of past GT2s.
Porsche 911 GT2's Future is in Doubt
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/1/19/Porsche-911-...
Porsche 911 GT2's Future is in Doubt
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/1/19/Porsche-911-...
This doesn't add up though - the 997 GT2 RS had well over 600bhp, so with the new platform adding a bit more to that shouldn't be an issue (i.e. it won't make it less drivable surely?)
The GT2 fills an hole in the 911 range - i.e. Turbo power (and power delivery) with a more engaging chassis setup. It would be a huge shame for them not to do one, they'd sell out over night - maybe they'll save it for post facelift.
The GT2 fills an hole in the 911 range - i.e. Turbo power (and power delivery) with a more engaging chassis setup. It would be a huge shame for them not to do one, they'd sell out over night - maybe they'll save it for post facelift.
Don’t wimp out and dawdle around below 3000rpm, but keep it on boost and bury the throttle and it goes bloody nuts, smacks you in the guts and charges forward with awe-inspiring speed. The first time this happens you won’t grab another gear, but lift off, brake and take a deep breath. Problem is, it’s an instant adrenalin shot and you’ll want more. Go again, make absolutely sure your foot’s flat, change gear, feel your eyes go wide, utter an expletive. BRAKE! for the rapidly approaching bend.
The GT2 RS is a delight to drive quickly, diving instantly into corners, finding immense traction out of them, but when its GT3 RS sister is so sublime you start to notice a few faults. Like the lack of noise or delicacy versus the GT3 RS. The right pedal and the 3.8-litre naturally aspirated engine in the GT3 are perfect companions, but in the GT2 you have to be seriously careful, picking and choosing when you floor it, finding the straights to blast along, and then using those ceramic brakes to slow you down and take it a little cautiously through the corners. It’s so fast that so much of your brain power is spent keeping up with it when you accelerate, and then making sure you’ve got it slowed down again, that’s it hard to make it all flow as sweetly as its sibling. To get the most from the GT2 RS you need lots of space and even more skill, and there’s not many people on the planet that are up to the job. You can go fast, but never, ever kid yourself that you’re in charge.
- CAR Magazine review of the 997 GT2 RS
The GT2 RS is a delight to drive quickly, diving instantly into corners, finding immense traction out of them, but when its GT3 RS sister is so sublime you start to notice a few faults. Like the lack of noise or delicacy versus the GT3 RS. The right pedal and the 3.8-litre naturally aspirated engine in the GT3 are perfect companions, but in the GT2 you have to be seriously careful, picking and choosing when you floor it, finding the straights to blast along, and then using those ceramic brakes to slow you down and take it a little cautiously through the corners. It’s so fast that so much of your brain power is spent keeping up with it when you accelerate, and then making sure you’ve got it slowed down again, that’s it hard to make it all flow as sweetly as its sibling. To get the most from the GT2 RS you need lots of space and even more skill, and there’s not many people on the planet that are up to the job. You can go fast, but never, ever kid yourself that you’re in charge.
- CAR Magazine review of the 997 GT2 RS
V8KSN said:
Don’t wimp out and dawdle around below 3000rpm, but keep it on boost and bury the throttle and it goes bloody nuts, smacks you in the guts and charges forward with awe-inspiring speed. The first time this happens you won’t grab another gear, but lift off, brake and take a deep breath. Problem is, it’s an instant adrenalin shot and you’ll want more. Go again, make absolutely sure your foot’s flat, change gear, feel your eyes go wide, utter an expletive. BRAKE! for the rapidly approaching bend.
The GT2 RS is a delight to drive quickly, diving instantly into corners, finding immense traction out of them, but when its GT3 RS sister is so sublime you start to notice a few faults. Like the lack of noise or delicacy versus the GT3 RS. The right pedal and the 3.8-litre naturally aspirated engine in the GT3 are perfect companions, but in the GT2 you have to be seriously careful, picking and choosing when you floor it, finding the straights to blast along, and then using those ceramic brakes to slow you down and take it a little cautiously through the corners. It’s so fast that so much of your brain power is spent keeping up with it when you accelerate, and then making sure you’ve got it slowed down again, that’s it hard to make it all flow as sweetly as its sibling. To get the most from the GT2 RS you need lots of space and even more skill, and there’s not many people on the planet that are up to the job. You can go fast, but never, ever kid yourself that you’re in charge.
- CAR Magazine review of the 997 GT2 RS
What a load of bThe GT2 RS is a delight to drive quickly, diving instantly into corners, finding immense traction out of them, but when its GT3 RS sister is so sublime you start to notice a few faults. Like the lack of noise or delicacy versus the GT3 RS. The right pedal and the 3.8-litre naturally aspirated engine in the GT3 are perfect companions, but in the GT2 you have to be seriously careful, picking and choosing when you floor it, finding the straights to blast along, and then using those ceramic brakes to slow you down and take it a little cautiously through the corners. It’s so fast that so much of your brain power is spent keeping up with it when you accelerate, and then making sure you’ve got it slowed down again, that’s it hard to make it all flow as sweetly as its sibling. To get the most from the GT2 RS you need lots of space and even more skill, and there’s not many people on the planet that are up to the job. You can go fast, but never, ever kid yourself that you’re in charge.
- CAR Magazine review of the 997 GT2 RS
ks, GT2 RS is a pussycat, they need to get a reviewer with some experience. For some of us the GT3 is just slowwww996GT2 said:
Just Porsche creating a bit of hype before announcing the new car I bet.
This looks about right, of course they will do a 991 GT2, 600PS with PDK, RWD, lighter, £180K.I can easily see why they wouldn't make it, the 991 GT3 is clearly amazing, and the 991 Turbo and S models so stupidly fast off the line and both so capable - the Turbo included regardless of its extra weight that the GT2 is really struggling to find its place in between them.
The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
goldsbd said:
I can easily see why they wouldn't make it, the 991 GT3 is clearly amazing, and the 991 Turbo and S models so stupidly fast off the line and both so capable - the Turbo included regardless of its extra weight that the GT2 is really struggling to find its place in between them.
The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
I have to say, I think you have nailed it there.The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
mollytherocker said:
goldsbd said:
I can easily see why they wouldn't make it, the 991 GT3 is clearly amazing, and the 991 Turbo and S models so stupidly fast off the line and both so capable - the Turbo included regardless of its extra weight that the GT2 is really struggling to find its place in between them.
The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
I have to say, I think you have nailed it there.The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
I think the 997 GT2 RS will be legendary in a few years.
Last Manual
Last Mezger
Last GT2
…….Last ever 'proper' 911?
V8KSN said:
mollytherocker said:
goldsbd said:
I can easily see why they wouldn't make it, the 991 GT3 is clearly amazing, and the 991 Turbo and S models so stupidly fast off the line and both so capable - the Turbo included regardless of its extra weight that the GT2 is really struggling to find its place in between them.
The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
I have to say, I think you have nailed it there.The general reviews appear to be that the old 997 GT2 is still so fast and difficult to drive that no one appears to be able to drive it properly anyway, personally most of this feedback comes from Journalists who have the car for an hour or two and s&£t their pants, this car needs time to learn and master, it's all the more exciting for it.
The three pedal thing does it for me, was bored of PDK in about 1hr, also has proper steering, a new GT2 is never going to be as quick off the line as a Turbo S due to 4 wheel drive etc so what's the point, it will always be compared and people will just say it sounds rubbish and is slower as you can't get the power down, it therefore becomes a halo product that will struggle to stay with the Turbo's,
I've feeling very happy that I got mine when I did, hopefully it's a keeper, and with only 62 in the UK will become evermore rare.
I'd love to see one built with all the stuff from 991 GT3 just as an exercise to see how fast it will go though!
I think the 997 GT2 RS will be legendary in a few years.
Last Manual
Last Mezger
Last GT2
…….Last ever 'proper' 911?
I put my name down on a 991 GT2 and have heard nothing despite positive feedback from the dealer at the time.
Talk of not being able to use GT2's is bks, you just have to show them varying degrees of respect (depending on the driving conditions) as you do any Supercar. I'd just say the GT2 requires MORE respect than your average Supercar, but it's the same deal.
Having been in a GTR, sorry 991 GT3 last week in Dubai I can confrim they are quick, comfortable and pretty. A true Porsche GT they aint I'm affraid. They have,in my opinion of course, been Nissan'd..... Very quick, very desirable, but dull and full of the tecno G meter dashboard crap that will apeal to the geeks not having the racing heritage the GT/RS cars used to have.... I know I know before people mention the 991 Cup car I'd suggest its pretty far removed from the road car in terms of what it is and what it stands for.
If they do bring out the 991 GT2 am I still interested, err probably not. No doubt it will be epic round the ring and will destroy everything bar a P1. What would I like sat alongside my 996GT2? well a 997 GT2 RS of course :-)
Talk of not being able to use GT2's is b
ks, you just have to show them varying degrees of respect (depending on the driving conditions) as you do any Supercar. I'd just say the GT2 requires MORE respect than your average Supercar, but it's the same deal.Having been in a GTR, sorry 991 GT3 last week in Dubai I can confrim they are quick, comfortable and pretty. A true Porsche GT they aint I'm affraid. They have,in my opinion of course, been Nissan'd..... Very quick, very desirable, but dull and full of the tecno G meter dashboard crap that will apeal to the geeks not having the racing heritage the GT/RS cars used to have.... I know I know before people mention the 991 Cup car I'd suggest its pretty far removed from the road car in terms of what it is and what it stands for.
If they do bring out the 991 GT2 am I still interested, err probably not. No doubt it will be epic round the ring and will destroy everything bar a P1. What would I like sat alongside my 996GT2? well a 997 GT2 RS of course :-)
Edited by jfp on Tuesday 21st January 08:53
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