Squawk alert
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Rower

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1,381 posts

295 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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My son has an aircraft tracker app on his iphone , last evening the 'phone emitted a stage signal and when he looked it had a message saying 'Squawk alert' or 'Squawk signal' he tapped the screen and was taken to his app which showed the track of an aircraft flying at 13000ft ( guess it may have said 30,000 ) over Agen ( SW France )the track showed the plane completing a circle and then landing. He then went on to the Air France website that reported that this plane had to return to the take off point because of Technical difficulties.

What is all this about ? It has never happened before and his girlfriend who has the same app did not receive the signal.

V8LM

5,553 posts

238 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Which app? If it's PlaneFinder you can set up Alerts from the settings menu.

Rower

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1,381 posts

295 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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V8LM said:
Which app? If it's PlaneFinder you can set up Alerts from the settings menu.
Maybe it is that one and he has not realised that he has set it.

AndyNetwork

1,849 posts

223 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Could be Flight Radar 24 - the paid for version has the alerts, the free one doesnt

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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An aircraft transponder is something which broadcasts a 4 digit code when interrogated by radar and helps identify the aircraft. Usually, when the aircraft is in a particular piece of controlled airspace, the controller will tell the pilot what 4 digit code to dial in. When outside of controlled airspace, or when you have not been assigned a squawk code, the transponder is usually left on 7000.
If the aircraft gets into difficulty, the pilot can dial in specific internationally recognised 4 digit squawk codes to alert any radar systems to a problem:
7500 = Hijacking ("seven five - been taken alive")
7600 = Radio comms problem ("seven six - radio needs a fix")
7700 = Mayday/emergency ("seven seven - we're going to heaven")
As mentioned above, apps like FlightRadar and PlaneFinder allow you to set up alerts for emergency squawk codes.

ukbabz

1,647 posts

155 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Rower said:
My son has an aircraft tracker app on his iphone , last evening the 'phone emitted a stage signal and when he looked it had a message saying 'Squawk alert' or 'Squawk signal' he tapped the screen and was taken to his app which showed the track of an aircraft flying at 13000ft ( guess it may have said 30,000 ) over Agen ( SW France )the track showed the plane completing a circle and then landing. He then went on to the Air France website that reported that this plane had to return to the take off point because of Technical difficulties.

What is all this about ? It has never happened before and his girlfriend who has the same app did not receive the signal.
Skydiving operations often sqwark to warn other users that they're about to drop, and a lot of operations operate from 13,000ft.

Quick google suggests http://www.bouloc-skydive.com/ isn't too far from Agen and operates a Pilatus according to their site which would easily drop from that altitude.

CharlieCrocodile

1,227 posts

182 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Another squawked 7700 after taking off from Tel-Aviv today, circled over the sea dumping fuel and then returned.

Mabbs9

1,661 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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ukbabz said:
Skydiving operations often sqwark to warn other users that they're about to drop, and a lot of operations operate from 13,000ft.

Quick google suggests http://www.bouloc-skydive.com/ isn't too far from Agen and operates a Pilatus according to their site which would easily drop from that altitude.
Other users (ie aircraft) can't see another aircrafts' code so this wouldn't be much use. ATC could see it however.

When using one of the alert type codes as described above eg 7700' 7600 etc, these automatically flag up on the ATC screens to draw immediate attention to the controller. It's possible these apps have a similar setting?

Mabbs9

1,661 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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Maybe so Zulu 10. I'm a commercial pilot, we don't use anything like that in large Boeings. TCAS for collision avoidance works through the transponders which gives proximate traffic info, specifically their level relative to your own. ATC see the raw radar info and overlay the secondary radar info ie the squawk, to give A/C data, ie callsign, destination etc.

JW911

936 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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Zulu 10 said:
I'm fairly sure that some aircraft are equipped with Interrogators and can display the codes to the crew...
Not civil ones as far as I know. A passing AWACS on the other hand….

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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boeing 777-336 tokoyo to heathrow just squawked 7700 just of Norfolk coast now

Lord_Howit_Hertz

1,971 posts

246 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Grandad7184 said:
boeing 777-336 tokoyo to heathrow just squawked 7700 just of Norfolk coast now
Haha since this thread I click on the updates and just came here to post that one, its also about the 5th "squawk" in 24 hours.

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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2 with in an hour there was one in asia but it was lost comms.

is the heathrow one a BA plane?

Mabbs9

1,661 posts

247 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Yep, the -336 gives it away. Actually the last two digits. It's the Boeing code for BA spec, so we also have 747-436 737-436 etc.

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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when I look at it again it was showing as normal. Can they Squawk then un squawk?

never was intrested until moved house and now I live under the flight path of Gatwick (Tonbridge) and being able to watch them for hours on a sunny day and those Airbus A380 are magical to watch

Mabbs9

1,661 posts

247 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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They have a squawk on all the time, allocated by ATC. Only a few are used at the pilots' discretion to alert ATC to an abnormal or emergency condition. 7700 for a mayday, would normally only be set if ATC couldn't be contacted to tell them verbally you have an emergency.

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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easy jet EZY72WX Bristol to Tenerife circuling of North France this morning

CharlieCrocodile

1,227 posts

182 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Grandad7184 said:
easy jet EZY72WX Bristol to Tenerife circuling of North France this morning
Landed at Brest, technical problem or pissed up hen/stag party causing trouble? smile

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Im going for the pissed up Hen/Stag optionbiggrin

JVaughan

6,025 posts

312 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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There has been quite a lot of Squawk 7700's over the last few weeks ... more than I have seen for a while