4.3 or 4.7

[petop]

If you havnt seen previous posts of mine im hoping to go form Porsche 911 ownership to V8 Vantage.
My budget (which seems to rise a little everyday) is 40k. Now im not seeing dealer 4.7's in that bracket but i did see a 39,000 mile 4.7 at a Aston dealer. Its going for 45k. Now is there a real world difference in the 4.7 over a low mileage 4.3 for 38-40k?
Of course its more powerful and slightly faster but in day in day out driving am i going to be wishing for a 4.7 when im in a 4.3. The 4.7 is a Semi-auto not that it bothers me.
The old age mileage issue keeps popping into my mind. Aston seems different than Porsche where low mileage 911's seem to be more expensive compared to Vantages so i keep thinking a 20k 4.3 is better. Expert thoughts???

[AdamV8V]

Would take a 39k mile 4.7 over a 20k 4.3 all day long

These cars like to be driven, and would urge you to buy on spec then condition then history and only then should mileage be a deciding factor.

Performance is one thing (and, having owned both, it's more significant than 40bhp would suggest) but also from MY09 the cars received the new interior and various other upgrades that people way more informed than me will be able to advise on.

Or just do what we all did (and no doubt you've been advised to do) and buy Grant's book.

Good luck. Buying your first Aston special, and almost as enjoyable as owning it;)

[petop]

Thanks for your thoughts, i have ordered Grants book and hopefully it will get out here in Afghan soon. I paid top rate for my 911 from a Indy because of their reputation always selling good cars so i know my upper limit will be flexible. Im arranging for the other half to go to Harwoods to have a test drive in a semi-auto. She has to like it so if she sees the one im on about "and it looks nice and shiny" then i may see about putting a deposit down.

[Jon1967x]

Do you know if the 4.7 has the sports pack? Usually give away is the wheels, lots of spokes is without the sports pack and is a softer car.

I started by looking at a 4.3 then a 4.7 then a 2010 with the 6 bar grill.. then an n420.. then a v8vs.. Then a new v8vs which is when I bought. It's was a fairly painless journey adding only 7k each increase

[ipd57]

Looked at 4.3 when I was shopping but could not convince myself. One run in a 4.7 and a deal was done. It depends on what you feel when you drive the car. I agree also the interior felt rather better, but the car just seemed smoother from the extra torque to me. Downward slope though....it led toa V12 eventually......

[bogie]

if you are going to spend £45K get the 4.7, dont worry about mileage in these cars so long as its well maintained likely its better for it

if you were buying at the lower end with say a £30-35K budget then Id just get the cheapest straight car you can other than a 100k mile old ex-hire car

not worth paying £5-10K more for a 4.3 with fewer miles, you wont notice it other than in your pocket

[Jon39]

petop said:

... Now is there a real world difference in the 4.7 over a low mileage 4.3 for 38-40k?

Of course its more powerful and slightly faster but in day in day out driving am i going to be wishing for a 4.7 when im in a 4.3. The 4.7 is a Semi-auto not that it bothers me.

Ross,

In your previous topic, I cannot remember whether I posted the lengthy list of 4·7 changes. Just ask if you want to see that list.

I have never driven a 4·3, but people do comment about the engine torque increase, as being one of the significant noticeable differences when driving. This might also mean less gearchanging at lower speeds, because the 4·7 will pull a little better at the lower engine revs.

Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 22 January 22:20

[divetheworld]

AdamV8V said:

Would take a 39k mile 4.7 over a 20k 4.3 all day long

What he said. The 4.7 pulls in 6th like the 4.3 pulls in 5th.

You wont be disappointed with a 4.3, its a great car.
You will love a 4.7, it's an astounding car.
As others have stated, don't be afraid of mileage. They are very tough and will last.

[petop]

Thanks for all the comments, my search from afar goes on!

[Gettoff]

bogie said:

if you are going to spend £45K get the 4.7, dont worry about mileage in these cars so long as its well maintained likely its better for it

if you were buying at the lower end with say a £30-35K budget then Id just get the cheapest straight car you can other than a 100k mile old ex-hire car

not worth paying £5-10K more for a 4.3 with fewer miles, you wont notice it other than in your pocket

+1 Pretty much this.

£35kish should get a decent 07MY 4.3, not much changed then until the 4.7 arrived. If you can wait a little longer get the 4.7, if not, then the 4.3 is hardly a poor substitute and it will be £10k cheaper.

[mikey k]

Jon1967x said:

Do you know if the 4.7 has the sports pack? Usually give away is the wheels, lots of spokes is without the sports pack and is a softer car.

Not always the case
A LOT of people have fitted V1 sport pack wheels
V2 (the ones you are referring to) have been an option without the suspension from release in 2010
Only real way to tell is check the build sheet.

[Jon1967x]

Pretty sure these were the standard wheels (without sport pack) on the early 4.7 car which was what the OP was looking at - different wheels don't mean its not but I can't see people putting these on a car in preference but they could. It was meant just as a guide.

[petop]

This is the car that has got my attention....
https://used.astonmartin.com/en-GB/Search/Details~...

[mikey k]

petop said:

This is the car that has got my attention....
https://used.astonmartin.com/en-GB/Search/Details~...

Nice
Those are V1 sport pack wheels and according to the list it had the full Sport Pack
I'd say that was over priced my 58 plate 4.7 Sport Pack, ASM1 roadster sold for £52k with 23k miles on it 2 years ago at an AM dealer!

[Phil74891]

Wait for the best and latest 4.7 you can afford. Chances are if you get a 4.3 you'll spend the whole time you own it thinking you should have bought a 4.7. The 4.3 is a great car and it will give you most of what you're looking for in Aston ownership. The 4.7 is better in many respects though.

[DangerMonkey]

Phil74891 said:

Wait for the best and latest 4.7 you can afford. Chances are if you get a 4.3 you'll spend the whole time you own it thinking you should have bought a 4.7. The 4.3 is a great car and it will give you most of what you're looking for in Aston ownership. The 4.7 is better in many respects though.

You can apply that logic to any point in the range, buy a 4.7 and you'll spend the whole time you own it thinking you should have bought an S or a V12. The 4.3 whilst not a rocket ship is plenty fast enough to bumble about in.

[Gettoff]

DangerMonkey said:

You can apply that logic to any point in the range, buy a 4.7 and you'll spend the whole time you own it thinking you should have bought an S or a V12. The 4.3 whilst not a rocket ship is plenty fast enough to bumble about in.

I think this is quite a valid point. If you get a 4.3 now, get on with it and a year or two down the line think 'I fancy an upgrade, maybe a V8S or a V12V is the one for me' you can skip a step and only have the cost to change once.

I currently have a 4.3 which I still enjoy immensely but an upgrade is looming, I wouldn't go to a standard 4.7 as it wouldn't be that much of a step up for the extra expense.

[divetheworld]

Gettoff said:

I think this is quite a valid point. If you get a 4.3 now, get on with it and a year or two down the line think 'I fancy an upgrade, maybe a V8S or a V12V is the one for me' you can skip a step and only have the cost to change once.

I currently have a 4.3 which I still enjoy immensely but an upgrade is looming, I wouldn't go to a standard 4.7 as it wouldn't be that much of a step up for the extra expense.

I'd have to disagree there buddy. I loved my 4.3 but the 4.7 is an entirely different car. Power wise, you'd have to drop a gear in a 4.3 to get the same pull as direct acceleration in a 4.7. Not only that, the torque makes the car feel more balanced.
I nearly went for a V8S but I preferred to pay the premium on a newer model with less miles than the extra cog and ancillaries.

[petop]

Understand where everyone is coming from. I have a C4S which is not exactly slow but does a Turbo swing it for me......well actually no. Its stupidly fast but its not the speed for me but more how it does it. Now if i was to stay within Porsche then i would go for the 997 GTS which is at a premium at the moment and possible future classic. A Turbo also sounds like a hairdrier and Porsche fans will say a 996 C$S with Porsche Sport Exhaust which mine has sounds pretty good. So ill be happier with a 4.7 and so will the missus when she sees how much goes out of the bank to get it!

[Gettoff]

divetheworld said:

Gettoff said:

I think this is quite a valid point. If you get a 4.3 now, get on with it and a year or two down the line think 'I fancy an upgrade, maybe a V8S or a V12V is the one for me' you can skip a step and only have the cost to change once.

I currently have a 4.3 which I still enjoy immensely but an upgrade is looming, I wouldn't go to a standard 4.7 as it wouldn't be that much of a step up for the extra expense.

I'd have to disagree there buddy. I loved my 4.3 but the 4.7 is an entirely different car. Power wise, you'd have to drop a gear in a 4.3 to get the same pull as direct acceleration in a 4.7. Not only that, the torque makes the car feel more balanced.
I nearly went for a V8S but I preferred to pay the premium on a newer model with less miles than the extra cog and ancillaries.

Fair point, but dropping a cog is not really a hardship if your 'on it' and the difference then is negligible. Agree in normal driving you could waft along easier in the 4.7, same as a V12 would be even easier.

With V12V now in the high 60k/low 70k bracket I would be tempted to wait for that jump and skip the 4.7, all IMHO .