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Will be buying a 4x4 straight after christmas, so starting to consider which.
Needs to carry 2 large dogs, and cost no more than around 30k.
Any ideas.
My first thoughts are:
- Volvo XC90
- Older X5
- Freelander
- New Disco
- Save up and buy a Cayenne Turbo
>>> Edited by hobo on Tuesday 16th November 11:43
Needs to carry 2 large dogs, and cost no more than around 30k.
Any ideas.
My first thoughts are:
- Volvo XC90
- Older X5
- Freelander
- New Disco
- Save up and buy a Cayenne Turbo
>>> Edited by hobo on Tuesday 16th November 11:43
Don't negate the Shogun, have had one for 2 years now, they are very good cars, although do not have the badge kudos some of the vehicles in your list enjoy.
All round they are the best compromise I could find between initial cost, mpg, service cost (9k intervals), comfort, spec, etc, especially in 3.2 DID diesel guise. Have found them to be very reliable and sturdy, and coming from Range Rovers the running costs are very reasonable.
The dealer I have used is Harratts in Barnsley
www.harratts.co.uk and ask for Richard the sales man
Hope that helps
Martyn.
>> Edited by MOD500 on Tuesday 16th November 12:06
All round they are the best compromise I could find between initial cost, mpg, service cost (9k intervals), comfort, spec, etc, especially in 3.2 DID diesel guise. Have found them to be very reliable and sturdy, and coming from Range Rovers the running costs are very reasonable.
The dealer I have used is Harratts in Barnsley
www.harratts.co.uk and ask for Richard the sales man
Hope that helps
Martyn.
>> Edited by MOD500 on Tuesday 16th November 12:06
The Range Rover is still, as the slogan goes, "the best 4x4xfar" 
Two dogs, six bales of hay, five adults with ease, phenomenal axle articulation, look fantastic, have a class all of their own - in short - an off road version of a Bentley!
Give me a 3yr old RR over a brand new Discovery any day.
Two dogs, six bales of hay, five adults with ease, phenomenal axle articulation, look fantastic, have a class all of their own - in short - an off road version of a Bentley!
Give me a 3yr old RR over a brand new Discovery any day.
burriana500 said:
The Range Rover is still, as the slogan goes, "the best 4x4xfar"
Two dogs, six bales of hay, five adults with ease, phenomenal axle articulation, look fantastic, have a class all of their own - in short - an off road version of a Bentley!
Give me a 3yr old RR over a brand new Discovery any day.
al you want a toyota landcruiser there is nothing better
steve f said:
The Range Rover is still, as the slogan goes, "the best 4x4xfar"
Two dogs, six bales of hay, five adults with ease, phenomenal axle articulation, look fantastic, have a class all of their own - in short - an off road version of a Bentley!
Give me a 3yr old RR over a brand new Discovery any day.
al you want a toyota landcruiser there is nothing better
Yes TOYOTA LAND CRUISER. IS THE ONE...
I have had 3 colorados I have just sold a 3.0D4D 51 plate with 25,000 miles for £19,000 and had to buy a shogun for £8000 1998 3.0 v6 petrol . Its in a differant league.
....ask for Richard the sales man steve f said:
al you want a toyota landcruiser there is nothing better
Depends what you want it for Steve - you live in the middle of nowhere and have horses and God knows what else to lug around... Mark is not in the same situation.
If you want a very capable and spacious 4x4 that also looks good and has bucket loads of street cred and style, then the RR has no peers.
We've got a Colarado in the family fleet. Huge great thing it is and there's no doubting it's ability, but for driving pleasure and style, well, it's not my thing anyway.
Hobo, sounds like your lady needs an XC90 or X5 then, the new Disco will take a while to have the faults shaken out of it I reckon, although it will be a great car.
I don't know about running costs on the Volvo or BMW, maybe someone else could comment?
A previous generation RR would be awesome, though the depreciation will be very heavy, and only the 4.0/4.6 V8's will give credable performance. But have massive thrist unless converted to LPG. I had a 2.5 DHSE and Steve f could have run faster than it
and the service costs are steep too. Though it depends on the mileage your good lady is going to do in it....I was doing ~35K miles a year and the 6K service intervals became a real pain.....£850+ for a major service and around £400/500 for the intermediates.
Regards the Land Crusier; the 3.0 TD and latterly the D4D are great, and sit on the same level as the (old) Disco and Shogun IMO. The 4.2 TD Amazon is the best work horse and mile eater combination, though again service costs are massive if you do a few miles...especially brakes and tyres. Fuel consumption is quite heavy too, around 20 mpg for the auto, though upwards of 25 is possible with the manual. Regards the 4.7 V8 Lexus engine derived LC, ridiculous thirst for unleaded.
If your lady is doing only a few miles per year, then most the above goes out of the window.
Thanks
Martyn.
I don't know about running costs on the Volvo or BMW, maybe someone else could comment?
A previous generation RR would be awesome, though the depreciation will be very heavy, and only the 4.0/4.6 V8's will give credable performance. But have massive thrist unless converted to LPG. I had a 2.5 DHSE and Steve f could have run faster than it
and the service costs are steep too. Though it depends on the mileage your good lady is going to do in it....I was doing ~35K miles a year and the 6K service intervals became a real pain.....£850+ for a major service and around £400/500 for the intermediates. Regards the Land Crusier; the 3.0 TD and latterly the D4D are great, and sit on the same level as the (old) Disco and Shogun IMO. The 4.2 TD Amazon is the best work horse and mile eater combination, though again service costs are massive if you do a few miles...especially brakes and tyres. Fuel consumption is quite heavy too, around 20 mpg for the auto, though upwards of 25 is possible with the manual. Regards the 4.7 V8 Lexus engine derived LC, ridiculous thirst for unleaded.
If your lady is doing only a few miles per year, then most the above goes out of the window.
Thanks
Martyn.
She seems to have her heart set on an X5, although does also likes freelanders (its me thats pushing her towards the Volvo & Disco).
With regards to mileage, it will probably do around 7.5k per year, and nearest to off-roading it will get is when she kerbs it trying to park (should have seen the state of the MGF wheels, which was her last car).
Had not condsidered the Toyota, so will probably add that to the list of vehicles to look at, as the new model looks alright.
With regards to mileage, it will probably do around 7.5k per year, and nearest to off-roading it will get is when she kerbs it trying to park (should have seen the state of the MGF wheels, which was her last car).
Had not condsidered the Toyota, so will probably add that to the list of vehicles to look at, as the new model looks alright.
burriana500 said:
al you want a toyota landcruiser there is nothing better
Depends what you want it for Steve - you live in the middle of nowhere and have horses and God knows what else to lug around... Mark is not in the same situation.
If you want a very capable and spacious 4x4 that also looks good and has bucket loads of street cred and style, then the RR has no peers.
We've got a Colarado in the family fleet. Huge great thing it is and there's no doubting it's ability, but for driving pleasure and style, well, it's not my thing anyway.
Al i would love to sell you the landcruiser but there is a problem her in doors wont have anything else and wont part with it we have had a landcruiser for 10 years now nothing better
If you buy RR you will get to know the service manager very well as they are the biggest pile of crap in the 4x4 world
MOD500 said:
If big time off road capability is not an issue, then what about an Audi Allroad? 2.5TDI with 180 and big torque or 2.7TT with ~260bhp, both have the Quattro 4wd system.
Not sure they are big enough. I used to have an A4 avant, nice car, but boot size an isse with dogs (especially height, hence 4x4 better).
Although, Audi still have a bit of my money, as I've got an order in for an RS4 next year (will probably cancel though).
stevef said:
Al, I'll sell you the landcruiser
You bloody won't! One's enough thank you!!
stevef said:
If you buy RR you will get to know the service manager very well as they are the biggest pile of crap in the 4x4 world
Well, I did get to know the service manager well, but that's because I was doing a big mileage so it was getting serviced fairly frequently. Never any major cost. Both RRs that I had were brilliant and the RR specialist where I got my last one from snapped mine back off me before I got the ad in the Auto Trader... for the asking price! >> Edited by burriana500 on Wednesday 17th November 13:34
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