M class or FFRR
Discussion
I'm considering changing my old range rover for one of these. Petrol or petrol only. Sorry don't fancy diesel. Don't want an X5, land cruiser, xc90 for various reasons, mainly that I don't like them.
My heart says FFRR - 03 plate with lpg around 8.5k @100k miles but there is sooo much to go wrong ona 70k 10 year old car.
But I know little about an Mclass. It would be the older model but as I don't think I'd stretch to an 06 car.
It needs to be a winter cruiser/family hack.
Presumably they are fairly well screwed together but any fundamental flaws?
My heart says FFRR - 03 plate with lpg around 8.5k @100k miles but there is sooo much to go wrong ona 70k 10 year old car.
But I know little about an Mclass. It would be the older model but as I don't think I'd stretch to an 06 car.
It needs to be a winter cruiser/family hack.
Presumably they are fairly well screwed together but any fundamental flaws?
My father had a 1999 Merc ML320 and a 2002 Merc ML320.
Very nice cars, great sound system and very capable off road, but build quality not the best. Looked very smart at the time though. I used to love the fact my Dads car was the new Jurassic Park film of the time, but thats irrelevant.
Rear passenger door handle stopped working was about the only fault I remembered it having. No problem when you've got a warranty. Nothing else really broke on it, it just was never built that great in the first place.
Very nice cars, great sound system and very capable off road, but build quality not the best. Looked very smart at the time though. I used to love the fact my Dads car was the new Jurassic Park film of the time, but thats irrelevant.
Rear passenger door handle stopped working was about the only fault I remembered it having. No problem when you've got a warranty. Nothing else really broke on it, it just was never built that great in the first place.
The old M-class can't hope to compete with the Range Rover...but having said that, and especially at this end of the market, be prepared for serious borkage! I considered a TD6 but it'd be all too easy to buy one for £10k, then spend another £5k in short order fixing faults (and in that case, you'd be better off spending an extra £5k for a newer model to begin with). As I didn't have that, I bought a Discovery 2.
This is interesting and not what I'd expected. Poor build quality (also mentioned in an 03 copy of top gear, slow, poor economy.
So exactly what you'd level at a FFRR but it isn't an FFRR.
Are the facelift 06 cars better? I had a nose at a colleagues 06 diesel and it did look quite nice.
So exactly what you'd level at a FFRR but it isn't an FFRR.
Are the facelift 06 cars better? I had a nose at a colleagues 06 diesel and it did look quite nice.
Rr from those two
I know I'll be laughed at by some but have considered these!
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I know I'll be laughed at by some but have considered these!
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I own a petrol FFRR and I had use of an ML350 for a month when someone t-boned the FFRR a couple of years back.
Both good cars. As someone said above, the sense of occasion never disappears with the FFRR and it is far and away the finest all-round car I have owned (I'm of Saga-able age and have owned a LOT of cars!). The principle difference I guess that I would say is that the ML is far more "car-like" if that makes sense, i.e. nearer to a car in the driving experience than a big 4x4 (compared to the Rangie).
Suggest you drive both first!
Both good cars. As someone said above, the sense of occasion never disappears with the FFRR and it is far and away the finest all-round car I have owned (I'm of Saga-able age and have owned a LOT of cars!). The principle difference I guess that I would say is that the ML is far more "car-like" if that makes sense, i.e. nearer to a car in the driving experience than a big 4x4 (compared to the Rangie).
Suggest you drive both first!
I really want a Range Rover. Really, really. I don't think I would by an older one though. My friend get quite a lot of gremlins with his 62 plate model!
However, I haven't paid my mortagge off yet and dont want to spend too much on cars.
Therefore, as I wasn't going to buy a dream car, I just wanted something reliable.
As a result, I went for a w164 Mercedes ML 320CDI (so diesel).
Extremely reliable, and I really struggled to find anything reported on the internet that goes wrong with them.
However, I would personally avoid the previous model w163. I dont think it is particularly refined and suffers from numerous issues.
However, I haven't paid my mortagge off yet and dont want to spend too much on cars.
Therefore, as I wasn't going to buy a dream car, I just wanted something reliable.
As a result, I went for a w164 Mercedes ML 320CDI (so diesel).
Extremely reliable, and I really struggled to find anything reported on the internet that goes wrong with them.
However, I would personally avoid the previous model w163. I dont think it is particularly refined and suffers from numerous issues.
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