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Zed 44 said:
What are your road trip plans for 2014?
A couple of us are thinking about the Pyrenees.
Do it, I do/did until 2 years ago at least once a year. Pyrenees, far better than the cloged up roads of central Europe IMO.A couple of us are thinking about the Pyrenees.

Ferry to Santandar, then East to the Pyrenees. Depending on ferry, we normally on the first night stay in Jaca, then usually hang around for a few days in Vileha.
On the way back to the ferry we stay for a night in Logranno, for years we stayed in a shopping mall hotel on the edge of the town in the commercial district, the last we were there, I threw the dolls out the pram and dragged th lads to the town centre .... wow, lovely place.
Roads to be driven ......... easily the most important is the N260, then the road from Vileha to Sort is just fantastic.
I've done it on bikes and in cars, if I can get my dear 911 back to full health, then I'll be going later this year.... the roads are fab, they are empty of traffic, the tarmac, the best, and when you come home, you'l just realise how s

Enjoy, but wait to middle of May at least becuase of snow on the passes.
Currently trying to talk the GF into this:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=London+SE12+9...
following this last year:
http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It may be amended slightly to take us to a different island/Dubrovnik/Southern Italy depending on how we feel and may even be in her new 318ci as opposed to my 540i for fuel reasons!
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=London+SE12+9...
following this last year:
http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It may be amended slightly to take us to a different island/Dubrovnik/Southern Italy depending on how we feel and may even be in her new 318ci as opposed to my 540i for fuel reasons!

Gone south-east for the last three summers (Bulgaria/Greece, Romania/Slovenia, Italy/Croatia), so we're thinking of a June/July trip up to the Arctic Circle. The route could be something like:
France, Germany, Poland, Baltics, ferry to Finland, all the way up to Arctic Circle, back south through Sweden, bridge to Denmark, ferry to Harwich.
Any thoughts, must-dos, or warnings?
France, Germany, Poland, Baltics, ferry to Finland, all the way up to Arctic Circle, back south through Sweden, bridge to Denmark, ferry to Harwich.
Any thoughts, must-dos, or warnings?
Zed 44 said:
What are your road trip plans for 2014?
A couple of us are thinking about the Pyrenees.
When are you looking to go? We are thinking of doing the Pyrenees this year as well, probably early September drive down and then ferry back.A couple of us are thinking about the Pyrenees.

The roads look so much quieter than the Alps.
Zed 44 said:
Plans are coming together.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Calais,+France&...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Saint-Jean-de-L...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Perpignan,+Fran...
Did much of your second map last year and the year before. Great roads and quieter than the Alps...https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Calais,+France&...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Saint-Jean-de-L...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Perpignan,+Fran...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTJlN8AD4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9T3A2sQlmc
On the third bit it's worth a detour over MtVentoux just after Avignon just to break up the motorway...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5irT03pRcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDMaR4OOyiU
After 2 years of that we're probably heading to the Dolomites this year.
Feb- Lake District (Yurt) for 3 days, also separate trip to Northumberland/Borders to stay in Hotel for 2 nights
April- Lake District Hotel, again for a week
May- Devon Camping for a week
June-Le Mans camping, 4 ights & then heading to South for a few days via Route Napoleon
July- Cornwall Camping for 10 nights
September-Scotland for 7 nights tour, mainly Highlands
October- Lake District Stag Do Weekend
April- Lake District Hotel, again for a week
May- Devon Camping for a week
June-Le Mans camping, 4 ights & then heading to South for a few days via Route Napoleon
July- Cornwall Camping for 10 nights
September-Scotland for 7 nights tour, mainly Highlands
October- Lake District Stag Do Weekend
Edited by billzeebub on Tuesday 28th January 19:37
Zed 44 said:
Plans are coming together.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Calais,+France&...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Saint-Jean-de-L...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Perpignan,+Fran...
I'd seriously consider leaving your route at Luchon, (your route to the town is a great road in parts by the way), take the over the mountain route into Spain to Vielha (D68A_), and from there to Sort, joining the N260 and from there to Puigcerda, and then from there back on to your route.https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Calais,+France&...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Saint-Jean-de-L...
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Perpignan,+Fran...
I've done these roads many times, the roads and scenery are fabulous. I've always tried to stay the Spanish side of the Pyrenees. A lot less traffic, a lot less expensive and less trouble if you come across the cops. What about San Sabastion (lovely town) south to Pamplona then onto Jaca from there, again fabulous road and scenery. From there head north past Biescas into France then taking the French D918n east to Arreau, then onto Luchon? Again this is stunning.
Finally somewhere like Luchon to Vielha are just 40 minutes from each other (probs 20 miles) yet Spanish Vielha will be less than half the price for a better room than in French Luchon.
Just food for thought.
Vielha to Sort road

Edited by Wozy68 on Wednesday 29th January 12:08
Having just bought my first Porsche I am now planning a trip to the Spanish Pyrenees.
Brittany Ferries to Bilbao
1. Bilbao to Biescas at start of N260. Have a look at Pamplona on the way
2. Biescas to Campdevanol via the entire length of N260 and divert off through Andorra.
3. Campdevanol to Pamplona along similar route. Having just Wozy's photo I will do the loop, Sort to Vileha
4. Pamplona to Oviedo
5. Oviedo to Santander via Picos de Europa
Overnight ferry back to Portsmouth, 8 days and about 1300 miles
Really looking forward to it
Brittany Ferries to Bilbao
1. Bilbao to Biescas at start of N260. Have a look at Pamplona on the way
2. Biescas to Campdevanol via the entire length of N260 and divert off through Andorra.
3. Campdevanol to Pamplona along similar route. Having just Wozy's photo I will do the loop, Sort to Vileha
4. Pamplona to Oviedo
5. Oviedo to Santander via Picos de Europa
Overnight ferry back to Portsmouth, 8 days and about 1300 miles
Really looking forward to it
Wozy68 said:
I'd seriously consider leaving your route at Luchon, (your route to the town is a great road in parts by the way), take the over the mountain route into Spain to Vielha (D68A_)
I'd agree - also, consider going south at Puigcerda. The N116 is nice enough but hardly a driving road and quite congested. Also in my memory the road south from Bouleternere is long, not hugely interesting, and slow. I've walked, hitch-hiked, and driven down it 
Whereas around Prats-de-Mollo is lovely.
Zed 44 said:
Thanks for that. The picture above looks fabulous. Will take on board your suggestions. When are you thinking about going?
Hi, it depends on my car. If I get the clutch, LWF and suspension done, then It will be autumn. If I leave the suspension then hopefully mid to late May,. Its not worth going any early as the passes like in the above photo can be shut.Edited by Wozy68 on Saturday 1st February 03:57
naw said:
I'd agree - also, consider going south at Puigcerda. The N116 is nice enough but hardly a driving road and quite congested. Also in my memory the road south from Bouleternere is long, not hugely interesting, and slow. I've walked, hitch-hiked, and driven down it 
Whereas around Prats-de-Mollo is lovely.
I thought the road east from Puigcerda nice, but I'd agree it can get busier (it's best left well alone in august) and there are some fab roads south of there. My memory does get a little fudled the further east you go.
Whereas around Prats-de-Mollo is lovely.
Edited by Wozy68 on Saturday 1st February 03:56
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