How Manufacturers decide on Model Designations
How Manufacturers decide on Model Designations
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ToothbrushMan

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1,772 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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The thread on the Polo "R" got me thinking......(thats twice this year, I really must control myself smile)

Why is it that car designations just work? As an example the old Escort "XR3i" - it just rolls off the tongue. It fits in nicely with "Escort".
Same as the even older Mk2 Escort "RS2000" - it just works, but why does it work?

You had Vauxhall Cavalier "SRi" - again that SRi just sounds good and its easy to say. Imagine Cavalier GYB or Escort QVr....doesnt work does it?
From the 80s onwards you had Ti, GTE, GSi, GT, ie, Si, SR, GTi.

And now we have a raft of models with the letters "R" or "S" somewhere in there. Why those letters? Has some bod decided they give off a better sportier air than any other letters in the alphabet?

Did any manufacturer ever proudly badge one of its cars as "8v"? I cant think of one, yet why did we all love the sound and the badge kudos of "16v"? Is that what it was, Kudos?

All the fast Audi's so S-line, S or RS....
VW with their "R32", R36, Golf R, Scirocco R now Polo R - why not the Polo F or N? (Stop sniggering at the back) What does that little R stand for?
Volvo are a little obsessed with the letter "R" as well.
Ford have the RS and then the ST - does ST stand for anything? Why not BI or SB? smile

I know how some arrive at their names ie; Vauxhall VXR = Vauxhall Racing and Seats Cupra's = Cup Racing and Fords RS = Rallye Sport and the oft used "GT" is Gran Tourer.

I wonder how much time manufacturers actually spend in coming with and deciding on the designation of a top of the range model? One letter can make all the difference it seems.

Seems the common letters on todays quick cars are basically just G,i,R,S and T.

Any names that really should never have seen the light of day?

Crafty_

14,129 posts

230 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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yer "i" was for injection wasn't it.

have a vague memory of sri being sport rallye injection ?

VW R = racing ??

BMW M = motorsport ?

Holden HSV = holden special vehicles

erm, can't think of any more.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

185 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Anything with an e sounds terrible.

XTE, XT is great, spoiled by the E
e-tron
e-brake
e-mac (ok not a car one but hey...)

The one exception is "Formula E", it somehow works.

lostmotel

156 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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"ST" apparently stands for "sport technology". I have a feeling that it is just a backronym, and that S and T were simply chosen as they are one letter further on in the alphabet than R and S, which has clearly been around for years.

Crafty_

14,129 posts

230 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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or they just missed out the letters in the middle hehe

Ahem, sorry paperbag

Edited by Crafty_ on Thursday 23 January 19:53

quiraing

1,649 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I remember a mate who had a Peugeot 305 diesel as one of his first cars. He put an "i" badge on the bootlid.

williamp

20,415 posts

303 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Surely the best begin with GT...

GTA, GTB, GTC, GTE, GTI, GTO, GTV, GTZ...

Of ourse in the 80s we had "ford granado scorpio 2.9i" which is long

Jonny_

4,707 posts

237 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Some of the modern names for trim levels puzzle me:

Lounge
Studio
Expression
Visia
Ambiance

That sort of cack. I never understood what LS/GL/GLS/CD/CDX stood for, either.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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i think Z is massively under used

only really used by datsun and bmw for roadsters

vincenz

693 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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ShaunTheSheep said:
Anything with an e sounds terrible.

XTE, XT is great, spoiled by the E
e-tron
e-brake
e-mac (ok not a car one but hey...)

The one exception is "Formula E", it somehow works.
E-type?

Toltec

7,179 posts

253 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Jonny_ said:
Some of the modern names for trim levels puzzle me:

Lounge
Studio
Expression
Visia
Ambiance

That sort of cack. I never understood what LS/GL/GLS/CD/CDX stood for, either.
Lux Sport
Grand Lux Sport
corps diplomatique - x might be extra?

joewilliams

2,004 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Jonny_ said:
I never understood what LS/GL/GLS/CD/CDX stood for, either.
The base model didn't have any designation (unlike today where it needs some stty name).

Then comes L - the Luxury model.

LS - Luxury.... somethingsomething.

GL - Grand Luxury.

Erm... I'm sure the others mean something.

I remember a Russell Bulgin CAR column in the early 90's explaining certain manufacturer's trim names and logic. Specifically, I remember that Citroen should have logically had a TRD model, but changed it to TDR for the UK market.

M4cruiser

5,199 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Jonny_ said:
Some of the modern names for trim levels puzzle me:

Lounge
Studio
Expression
Visia
Ambiance
Have to agree - I can't work out the levels with stuff like Design, Classic, etc.

Give me L, GL, GLS any day!!!!!!! smile

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

181 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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As far as I was aware, for Ford:

LX was Luxury Xtra
GL was Grand Luxury
GLX was Grand Luxury Xtra

As for great sounding sporty names ZR, ZS and ZT was great in my opinion. ZA, ZB and ZC just doesn't sound as good.

richs2891

906 posts

283 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I thought it was pick a load of letters out of a bag and ta dah - thats the model designation ?
Oh sorry I'm getting confused with how insurance companies come up with insurance quotes (swapping numbers for letters)

xRIEx

8,180 posts

178 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I believe CL on VWs was for Comfort Line.

Cliftonite

8,745 posts

168 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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vincenz said:
E-type?
Yes, the world-famous Jaguar XKE !!


Puddenchucker

5,885 posts

248 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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For Ferraris (IIRC):

GTO Gran Turismo Omologato
GTB Gran Turismo Berlinetta
GTS Gran Turismo Spider

M4cruiser

5,199 posts

180 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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richs2891 said:
I thought it was pick a load of letters out of a bag and ta dah - thats the model designation ?
No, that's how Daewoo come up with model names, not just trim levels!

Nexia?? Matiz?? Lanos?? Aveo?? wtf mad


Viper_Larry

4,375 posts

286 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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[quote=williamp]Surely the best begin with GT...

GTA, GTB, GTC, GTE, GTI, GTO, GTV, GTZ...

Of ourse in the 80s we had "ford granado scorpio 2.9i" which is long[/quoteSllight typo there but I remember all the "2.9i Ghia X" type designations and wondering if they could get any longer!