Forthcoming BMW 720i

[y2blade]

That'll be nice ^^^^^

[0a]

I like the colour of the 7 in the picture.

[Cupramax]

If its the 240hp 2.0t that'll be more powerful than the old 730...

[ShaunTheSheep]

Im holding out for the 718d

To be fair to BMW their hands are tied on emissions and I bet that goes no worse than a 728 of yesteryear (even if it is 2cyls short).

[kambites]

I guess it'll have about 100bhp/tonne, which is plenty for cruising up and down motorways at 80mph.

[KFC]

Such a small engine in such a big/heavy car?

No thanks.

[va1o]

I presume this a joke, the 20i engine really wouldn't be suitable in the F01 7er!

[RevoEvo7]

I'll have a 714i 1.6 and a 160i V12 just for novelty value.

Guess which one would be debadged?

[0a]

The Diesel engine in the 7 is agricultural and unsuited to it, I wonder if this will be any better or worse?

[Dog Star]

KFC said:

Such a small engine in such a big/heavy car?

No thanks.

Why not?

A hundred and more years ago I seem to recall wooden framed motorbikes had stuff like 3500cc engines that developed 2hp and did about 10mph.

As time has gone on we get more power from smaller engines. Progress - better designs, better tolerances, better metallurgy.

[BlueMR2]

Dog Star said:

Why not?

A hundred and more years ago I seem to recall wooden framed motorbikes had stuff like 3500cc engines that developed 2hp and did about 10mph.

As time has gone on we get more power from smaller engines. Progress - better designs, better tolerances, better metallurgy.

Cars also have more tat, less quality and free ugliness thrown in.

[g3org3y]

ShaunTheSheep said:

Im holding out for the 718d

To be fair to BMW their hands are tied on emissions and I bet that goes no worse than a 728 of yesteryear (even if it is 2cyls short).

Indeed, E38 728 only had the same 193 bhp as per the 328i and 528i.

Someone on here has one, different gearing iirc. Does 70mph at around 2k revs?

[McWigglebum4th]

You can get 1000Bhp out a 2 ltr 4 pot turbo

So engine size is becoming irrelevant



And don't forget about the torque

[matchmaker]

kambites said:

I guess it'll have about 100bhp/tonne, which is plenty for cruising up and down lane 3 of motorways at 80mph.

EFA

[Debaser]

Downsizing is happening all across the industry. It won't be long before most cars this size are offered with a 2.0 4 cylinder.

[Urban Sports]

0a said:

The Diesel engine in the 7 is agricultural and unsuited to it

It's far from agricultural, I'm assuming you are referring to the 3.0d? It's a superb engine.

[Easternlight]

Well if Ford can get away with the 1.0l ecoboost in a Mondeo why not?



(But it is so wrong)

[hornetrider]

It's not about power, it's about silky refinement. Which you will not get from a four pot turbo.

[0a]

Urban Sports said:

0a said:

The Diesel engine in the 7 is agricultural and unsuited to it

It's far from agricultural, I'm assuming you are referring to the 3.0d? It's a superb engine.

I am indeed, I travel in one regularly. Get in and start up a new 7 and drive off, then get in bog standard e38 728 start up and drive off. We have regressed in terms of refinement and smoothness by a significant amount I'm afraid.

Of course I understand the tax and economy reasons as to why the 730d exists, but let's not fool ourselves that it's a remotely refined engine!

[Urban Sports]

0a said:

I am indeed, I travel in one regularly. Get in and start up a new 7 and drive off, then get in bog standard e38 728 start up and drive off. We have regressed in terms of refinement and smoothness by a significant amount I'm afraid.

Of course I understand the tax and economy reasons as to why the 730d exists, but let's not fool ourselves that it's a remotely refined engine!

It by far the most refined Diesel engine I've ever driven and I've driven a fair few, excellent engine.