New daily snotter, ideas?
Discussion
Currently pootling around in a 1.2 corsa B (the one with 44 bhp... back when it was new in 1997!) which probably has around half of those horses left to this day. As you can guess, progress is glacial and sometimes highly embarrassing especially when you remember it is covered in 'National Trust' and a lot of butterfly stickers from the previous well intentioned owner and you've just pulled out onto a 30 MPH road with 200 meters to build your speed up and still manage to make the oncoming car have to slow down. 
My criteria for the next shed is:
Must not be awfully slow - obviously this is a second car so it doesn't have to be fast either but it needs to be adequately powerful to be relaxing to drive and not make me want to park up and walk the rest of my journey.
Fairly comfortable - not expecting an S class but a decent level of waftability would be good.
Must be fairly cheap to maintain / DIYable, and not too much of a pain to keep on the road as my main car is pretty maintenance intensive.
Bonus points for a car that is involving and engaging to drive - if I did go this route then the clio 172 would be top of the list at the cost of sacrificing comfort, but I'm sure there are other similar cars which may be more refined than a paper aeroplane.
The budget for all this... £1000 or there abouts. I'm not too fussy whether its diesel / petrol, a hatchback or saloon or estate etc. As long as it meets the above criteria (which I think may be a tall order in itself) i'll be happy.
So far I've thought about MG ZTs, old Peugeots 406s, and a couple of old Volvo models but I was unsure which model specifically as I have no experience with them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated

My criteria for the next shed is:
Must not be awfully slow - obviously this is a second car so it doesn't have to be fast either but it needs to be adequately powerful to be relaxing to drive and not make me want to park up and walk the rest of my journey.
Fairly comfortable - not expecting an S class but a decent level of waftability would be good.
Must be fairly cheap to maintain / DIYable, and not too much of a pain to keep on the road as my main car is pretty maintenance intensive.
Bonus points for a car that is involving and engaging to drive - if I did go this route then the clio 172 would be top of the list at the cost of sacrificing comfort, but I'm sure there are other similar cars which may be more refined than a paper aeroplane.
The budget for all this... £1000 or there abouts. I'm not too fussy whether its diesel / petrol, a hatchback or saloon or estate etc. As long as it meets the above criteria (which I think may be a tall order in itself) i'll be happy.
So far I've thought about MG ZTs, old Peugeots 406s, and a couple of old Volvo models but I was unsure which model specifically as I have no experience with them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated

solidlad84 said:
Currently pootling around in a 1.2 corsa B (the one with 44 bhp... back when it was new in 1997!) which probably has around half of those horses left to this day. As you can guess, progress is glacial and sometimes highly embarrassing especially when you remember it is covered in 'National Trust' and a lot of butterfly stickers from the previous well intentioned owner and you've just pulled out onto a 30 MPH road with 200 meters to build your speed up and still manage to make the oncoming car have to slow down. 
My criteria for the next shed is:
Must not be awfully slow - obviously this is a second car so it doesn't have to be fast either but it needs to be adequately powerful to be relaxing to drive and not make me want to park up and walk the rest of my journey.
Fairly comfortable - not expecting an S class but a decent level of waftability would be good.
Must be fairly cheap to maintain / DIYable, and not too much of a pain to keep on the road as my main car is pretty maintenance intensive.
Bonus points for a car that is involving and engaging to drive - if I did go this route then the clio 172 would be top of the list at the cost of sacrificing comfort, but I'm sure there are other similar cars which may be more refined than a paper aeroplane.
The budget for all this... £1000 or there abouts. I'm not too fussy whether its diesel / petrol, a hatchback or saloon or estate etc. As long as it meets the above criteria (which I think may be a tall order in itself) i'll be happy.
So far I've thought about MG ZTs, old Peugeots 406s, and a couple of old Volvo models but I was unsure which model specifically as I have no experience with them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated
Maybe look at a Volvo V40 T4 or S40 if you dont want the estate? 200HP, half decent interior and go pretty well. Not in the same league as a 172 but less likely to be totally shagged 
My criteria for the next shed is:
Must not be awfully slow - obviously this is a second car so it doesn't have to be fast either but it needs to be adequately powerful to be relaxing to drive and not make me want to park up and walk the rest of my journey.
Fairly comfortable - not expecting an S class but a decent level of waftability would be good.
Must be fairly cheap to maintain / DIYable, and not too much of a pain to keep on the road as my main car is pretty maintenance intensive.
Bonus points for a car that is involving and engaging to drive - if I did go this route then the clio 172 would be top of the list at the cost of sacrificing comfort, but I'm sure there are other similar cars which may be more refined than a paper aeroplane.
The budget for all this... £1000 or there abouts. I'm not too fussy whether its diesel / petrol, a hatchback or saloon or estate etc. As long as it meets the above criteria (which I think may be a tall order in itself) i'll be happy.
So far I've thought about MG ZTs, old Peugeots 406s, and a couple of old Volvo models but I was unsure which model specifically as I have no experience with them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated


Bit of haggling required, but if anywhere near as good as it looks this is ridiculous value for money IMVHO...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
BMW 3 SERIES 328i SE 4dr Auto 2.8 100 PERCENT GENUINE MILES
66800 miles
RED, 1 YEARS MOT / TAXED TILL APRIL, FULL LEATHER SEATS, DRIVES PERFECT,, Next MOT due 06/01/2015, Tax expires 31/03/2014, Full service history, Air conditioning, Airbags, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Electric door mirrors, Heated seats, Leather seats, Full leather seats with rear and front amy rest, Power steering, Remote central locking, Traction control, Genuine m3 body kit from factory, Good tyres all round, Bmw mats, Bmw frist aid kit used, Full bmw kit in the boot, Electric front and rear windows, Alpina cd player with ipod connection, 1 Years mot, Road tax till april 2014, 2 Keys alarm fob, Very clean car in and out px welcome. £1,500 p/x poss



http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
BMW 3 SERIES 328i SE 4dr Auto 2.8 100 PERCENT GENUINE MILES
66800 miles
RED, 1 YEARS MOT / TAXED TILL APRIL, FULL LEATHER SEATS, DRIVES PERFECT,, Next MOT due 06/01/2015, Tax expires 31/03/2014, Full service history, Air conditioning, Airbags, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Electric door mirrors, Heated seats, Leather seats, Full leather seats with rear and front amy rest, Power steering, Remote central locking, Traction control, Genuine m3 body kit from factory, Good tyres all round, Bmw mats, Bmw frist aid kit used, Full bmw kit in the boot, Electric front and rear windows, Alpina cd player with ipod connection, 1 Years mot, Road tax till april 2014, 2 Keys alarm fob, Very clean car in and out px welcome. £1,500 p/x poss
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Volkswagen Passat 2.0 SE 4dr
41000 miles
full vw service history,immaculate condition,4 new tyres,MOT AND TAX untill april, GREEN, Electric windows, CD player, Height adjustable driver's seat, Folding rear seats, Child seat points (Isofix system), Alloy wheels, Power steering, Steering wheel rake adjustment, Steering wheel reach adjustment, Roof rails, Central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's airbags, Side airbags, Passenger airbags. £1,395

Volkswagen Passat 2.0 SE 4dr
41000 miles
full vw service history,immaculate condition,4 new tyres,MOT AND TAX untill april, GREEN, Electric windows, CD player, Height adjustable driver's seat, Folding rear seats, Child seat points (Isofix system), Alloy wheels, Power steering, Steering wheel rake adjustment, Steering wheel reach adjustment, Roof rails, Central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's airbags, Side airbags, Passenger airbags. £1,395
solidlad84 said:
My mistake - my last 3 cars have all been some variation of 3 series so as much as I love them, its probably the one single car I need a slight break from, sorry!
9-3 and mondeos are good shouts that I hadn't thought about - i'll have a search up for them now along with the Volvos.
The 9-3's a cracking car for the money. The 1.9 TD is OK, the 2.0 petrol is excellent and not as thirsty as you'd think. 9-3 and mondeos are good shouts that I hadn't thought about - i'll have a search up for them now along with the Volvos.
M3DGE said:
The 9-3's a cracking car for the money. The 1.9 TD is OK, the 2.0 petrol is excellent and not as thirsty as you'd think.
Any idea what the reliability of these engines is like once they are aging? I have seen a 1.9 TID 150 model and a 2.0 turbo petrol with 150 bhp too. Its amazing on the face of it what you can get for just over £1000. Great looking cars IMO.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Saab 9-5 2.0t Vector 4dr 12m MOT, Warranty,
66900 miles
GREY, 3 months warranty, Next MOT due 18/01/2015, Last serviced on 16/01/2012 at 51,747 miles, Full service history, Excellent bodywork, Grey Cloth interior - Excellent Condition, Tyre condition Good, Leather/textile upholstery, Driving pack - 9-5, 17" 7 spoke alloy wheels, Electric windows, Saab AS2 audio system with CD/cassette, 150W, 7 speakers, Auto climate control with dual temperature zone, Power Steering, Height/reach adjust steering wheel, Comfort pack - 9-5, Electronic Stability Programme, Traction control, Sports seats, Alarm - category 1, Steering wheel mounted audio/telephone controls, Electrically heated + operated door mirrors, Immobiliser, Driver's lumbar support, Exterior Sport styling pack 9-5. 5 seats, 3 mth warranty over 1500GBP & less than 150k miles, Upg. 12m 100GBP, Part-Ex welcome, Eves ok, £1,450

Saab 9-5 2.0t Vector 4dr 12m MOT, Warranty,
66900 miles
GREY, 3 months warranty, Next MOT due 18/01/2015, Last serviced on 16/01/2012 at 51,747 miles, Full service history, Excellent bodywork, Grey Cloth interior - Excellent Condition, Tyre condition Good, Leather/textile upholstery, Driving pack - 9-5, 17" 7 spoke alloy wheels, Electric windows, Saab AS2 audio system with CD/cassette, 150W, 7 speakers, Auto climate control with dual temperature zone, Power Steering, Height/reach adjust steering wheel, Comfort pack - 9-5, Electronic Stability Programme, Traction control, Sports seats, Alarm - category 1, Steering wheel mounted audio/telephone controls, Electrically heated + operated door mirrors, Immobiliser, Driver's lumbar support, Exterior Sport styling pack 9-5. 5 seats, 3 mth warranty over 1500GBP & less than 150k miles, Upg. 12m 100GBP, Part-Ex welcome, Eves ok, £1,450
edo said:
Bit of haggling required, but if anywhere near as good as it looks this is ridiculous value for money IMVHO...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
BMW 3 SERIES 328i SE 4dr Auto 2.8 100 PERCENT GENUINE MILES
66800 miles
RED, 1 YEARS MOT / TAXED TILL APRIL, FULL LEATHER SEATS, DRIVES PERFECT,, Next MOT due 06/01/2015, Tax expires 31/03/2014, Full service history, Air conditioning, Airbags, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Electric door mirrors, Heated seats, Leather seats, Full leather seats with rear and front amy rest, Power steering, Remote central locking, Traction control, Genuine m3 body kit from factory, Good tyres all round, Bmw mats, Bmw frist aid kit used, Full bmw kit in the boot, Electric front and rear windows, Alpina cd player with ipod connection, 1 Years mot, Road tax till april 2014, 2 Keys alarm fob, Very clean car in and out px welcome. £1,500 p/x poss



Lovely! Almost seems rude to call that a shed!http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
BMW 3 SERIES 328i SE 4dr Auto 2.8 100 PERCENT GENUINE MILES
66800 miles
RED, 1 YEARS MOT / TAXED TILL APRIL, FULL LEATHER SEATS, DRIVES PERFECT,, Next MOT due 06/01/2015, Tax expires 31/03/2014, Full service history, Air conditioning, Airbags, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Electric door mirrors, Heated seats, Leather seats, Full leather seats with rear and front amy rest, Power steering, Remote central locking, Traction control, Genuine m3 body kit from factory, Good tyres all round, Bmw mats, Bmw frist aid kit used, Full bmw kit in the boot, Electric front and rear windows, Alpina cd player with ipod connection, 1 Years mot, Road tax till april 2014, 2 Keys alarm fob, Very clean car in and out px welcome. £1,500 p/x poss
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