First car dilemma.
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The GTI 180 was a horrible car when it first came out and still is, so cast that off.
To be honest mate I would spend a few months in a 1.4/1.6 hatch rather than jumping straight to a hot hatch, I know you say you maybe ready as thats what I thought when I first started driving, but trust me, you are not, you wont believe me, but as many will tell you on here, you a very likely to bin it.
Just get to grips with how the road works and different cars grip levels, how cars handle, being able to modulate steering and throttle inputs in something cheaper and slower, then by all means go for something quicker.
Im 19 myself, I had to come to terms with this when I first learned but trust me, 6months/1year in a smaller, slower car does everyone the world of good.
Edit: Re-read, any of these will do fine "Saxo Vtr, Peugeot 106 quicksilver, Suzuki Ignis Sport, 306 Dturbo, MGZR"!
To be honest mate I would spend a few months in a 1.4/1.6 hatch rather than jumping straight to a hot hatch, I know you say you maybe ready as thats what I thought when I first started driving, but trust me, you are not, you wont believe me, but as many will tell you on here, you a very likely to bin it.
Just get to grips with how the road works and different cars grip levels, how cars handle, being able to modulate steering and throttle inputs in something cheaper and slower, then by all means go for something quicker.
Im 19 myself, I had to come to terms with this when I first learned but trust me, 6months/1year in a smaller, slower car does everyone the world of good.
Edit: Re-read, any of these will do fine "Saxo Vtr, Peugeot 106 quicksilver, Suzuki Ignis Sport, 306 Dturbo, MGZR"!
I would suggest you buy my Toyota celica 190 t sport!
Practical, economical, safe and only goes quick when you ring it's neck.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Practical, economical, safe and only goes quick when you ring it's neck.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 3rd February 13:47
samdale said:
What's the budget? If I wanted a fun car but had to sit in traffic for an hour I'd also want it to be a nice place to be so maybe something newer?
C2 GT, Suzuki swift sport?
My friend had a c2 GT. Constantly getting parts replaced on it, so that put me off of it. He bought a GTi-6 for £250 that he preferred so much more (And cost less in parts) he sold off the C2. Realistcly, up to 5 grand including insurance. Obviously if i can spend less money, all the better. Clean unmodified VTR's would cost me £2500 with insurance, and then the leftover cash goes into the kitty for the next car in 3 years.C2 GT, Suzuki swift sport?
dave_s13 said:
I would suggest you buy my Toyota celica 190 t sport!
Practical, economical, safe and only goes quick when you ring it's neck.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Unfortunatley, you're in Yorkshire, and I'm in Surrey Practical, economical, safe and only goes quick when you ring it's neck.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
And taking a 190 and keeping it on-cam down a bumpy B-road is not easy, I don't claim to be a 'driving hero' but after 6 years on the road I found it difficult with the constant on/off power between certain revs. Brilliant fun, though!
I'm currently rocking in a 306 DTurbo, I think it's a great car, but it's really feeling its age now. Worn rear beam means that I had to pick up another one second hand at the weekend and maintenance is required more frequently than on a newer car - I'd say I'm under that car once every 3 months doing something. If you're up for it, then they can be run for peanuts (cost less than £500 last year and that included a new clutch and 2 new tyres together with regular servicing).
For a similar albeit more modern alternative I think the Fabia VRS might be a bit of a better option, just to get you used to driving swiftly for starters, before going for something 'full fat'.
I'm currently rocking in a 306 DTurbo, I think it's a great car, but it's really feeling its age now. Worn rear beam means that I had to pick up another one second hand at the weekend and maintenance is required more frequently than on a newer car - I'd say I'm under that car once every 3 months doing something. If you're up for it, then they can be run for peanuts (cost less than £500 last year and that included a new clutch and 2 new tyres together with regular servicing).
For a similar albeit more modern alternative I think the Fabia VRS might be a bit of a better option, just to get you used to driving swiftly for starters, before going for something 'full fat'.
I'm going to mirror some comments here and say "sporty, 1st car? don't do it!".
Go for a decent Diesel (Golf, Polo, Focus etc) Get the best you can afford, put a bit aside for servicing, consumables and get used to the outlay of a motor.
Once you've got a nice taste for what you can stomach cost wise deal with scratching your PH itch.
Personnaly I'd sink the any cash into a house ASAP but maybe you already have
What's your budget?
T1b
Go for a decent Diesel (Golf, Polo, Focus etc) Get the best you can afford, put a bit aside for servicing, consumables and get used to the outlay of a motor.
Once you've got a nice taste for what you can stomach cost wise deal with scratching your PH itch.
Personnaly I'd sink the any cash into a house ASAP but maybe you already have
What's your budget?
T1b
T1berious said:
I'm going to mirror some comments here and say "sporty, 1st car? don't do it!".
Go for a decent Diesel (Golf, Polo, Focus etc) Get the best you can afford, put a bit aside for servicing, consumables and get used to the outlay of a motor.
Once you've got a nice taste for what you can stomach cost wise deal with scratching your PH itch.
Personnaly I'd sink the any cash into a house ASAP but maybe you already have
What's your budget?
T1b
Why diesel? As said above, cheap small-engined petrol is the way forward in my view, get used to something that needs revs and is enjoyable to drive.Go for a decent Diesel (Golf, Polo, Focus etc) Get the best you can afford, put a bit aside for servicing, consumables and get used to the outlay of a motor.
Once you've got a nice taste for what you can stomach cost wise deal with scratching your PH itch.
Personnaly I'd sink the any cash into a house ASAP but maybe you already have
What's your budget?
T1b
Just because of the predicted mileage the O/P stated. IMHO.
Then again, it's also budget dependant. from my limited experience when I was in my early 20's every bill was a bit of a shock (of which my 1st car had plenty).
Golf GTD will still pull sub 8.0 0-60? And should be "fairly" reliable with "lowish" running costs.
Then again, it's also budget dependant. from my limited experience when I was in my early 20's every bill was a bit of a shock (of which my 1st car had plenty).
Golf GTD will still pull sub 8.0 0-60? And should be "fairly" reliable with "lowish" running costs.
JoeCastle said:
Yes, i did say i had suspicions of ending up in a bush, that's why the lower output warmer hatches sound like a good idea for now. Also little things like petrol. The extra 800 i'd save on insurance could certainly go a long way with parking and fuel!
I don't think you're more likely to put a 182 in a ditch than you are a 106 Quicksilver, to be honest. I'd pick the one most likely to allow you to leave it with all of your limbs.I passed at 21 . I runa Clio for a year, then a Mini One D for another year before getting a Boxster S (had for a year). I am far more nervous of crashing now I've gone from the Boxster to a TVR Sagaris than when I went from the Mini to the Porsche, despite the on-paper difference being much greater between the Bini and the Porsche.
I had a 1.2 Clio as my first car, it was fantastic fun but don't expect anything electrical to actually work. Think if I were in your position I'd be looking at a 172 or a 182, or anything similar in that sort of bracket (Fiesta ST?). Honestly wouldn't worry about them being too quick for you - the newer it is the easier it'll be to drive anyway.
A 106 driven on the limit is just as likely to end up in a tree as a 182 and whatever you have you'll either be driving like an idiot or you won't. Different story of you're going into a RWD, 200+ BHP machine but otherwise I wouldn't worry about it.
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