Job offered then withdrawn at the last moment...
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Not me thankfully but just heard this;
A customer (no relation to my business) has just told me she is without work as she was offered a managerial position with a company that was expanding with the addition of a new shop. She told her current employers & worked her (quite long) notice but "days" before due to start at the new shop they told her that the financial forecasts had changed & she wouldn't be needed.
The new shop is apparently still opening but without her managerial position.
She's obviously a bit distraught about this but is unsure of what to do, I pointed her in the direction of acas (& to her old employer but she can't face to go back). Apart from acting crap I suspect they've either used her knowledge to their advantage (she has been helping set the place up whilst not being employed by them) & got what they wanted or (perhaps) realised she's not the one for the job while she's been doing this unpaid work.
Essentially it's a case of now we can't afford the general manager that we promised you'd be.
Anyone any experience of this?
A customer (no relation to my business) has just told me she is without work as she was offered a managerial position with a company that was expanding with the addition of a new shop. She told her current employers & worked her (quite long) notice but "days" before due to start at the new shop they told her that the financial forecasts had changed & she wouldn't be needed.
The new shop is apparently still opening but without her managerial position.
She's obviously a bit distraught about this but is unsure of what to do, I pointed her in the direction of acas (& to her old employer but she can't face to go back). Apart from acting crap I suspect they've either used her knowledge to their advantage (she has been helping set the place up whilst not being employed by them) & got what they wanted or (perhaps) realised she's not the one for the job while she's been doing this unpaid work.
Essentially it's a case of now we can't afford the general manager that we promised you'd be.
Anyone any experience of this?
I assume she had a written job offer before handing in her notice at the current job?
In which case, she cannot simply be told that she's not needed anymore. She can however be made redundant straight away with obviously limited benefits to that.
Obviously if she's signed a full-on contract, she has what's worded in that too.
If she quit her job without something in writing from the new place, well.....
In which case, she cannot simply be told that she's not needed anymore. She can however be made redundant straight away with obviously limited benefits to that.
Obviously if she's signed a full-on contract, she has what's worded in that too.
If she quit her job without something in writing from the new place, well.....
LaurasOtherHalf said:
No contract signed, simply a verbal offer & start date
Nothing can be done and Im afraid she will have to learn the hard way its the wrong way to move jobs.Seems very strange that she did not have alarm bells ringing that there was no contract in place at all, this the first time she has moved job?
if it is of any consolation then bear in mind that any new employee can be sacked for absolutely no reason within the first 2 years of starting a new job, which means she could have got the boot in day 2. she might want to try sending them a cheeky invoice and later a threat of small claims court for her time in helping set up the new shop... other than that, there is absolutely no shame in going back. It's just a question of whether the old employer is missing her. Later on, the small break in employment can be left off the cv
Siscar said:
Signing a contract would not have made one jot of difference.
You are always at risk moving jobs, but for the first two years you are unprotected and essentially they can just tell you to go.
Really there's nothing she's done wrong other than accept a job offered by d
heads.
This is pretty much what I thinkYou are always at risk moving jobs, but for the first two years you are unprotected and essentially they can just tell you to go.
Really there's nothing she's done wrong other than accept a job offered by d
heads.mikef said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
to her old employer but she can't face to go back
I've seen this happen a few times and without exception the current employer has been delighted that the person is ready to stay on and welcomed them back without it being an issueLaurasOtherHalf said:
No contract signed, simply a verbal offer & start date
She is entitled to her contractual notice period. The fact she has not started work does not prevent the employer terminating her her contract.Did she have any expectation of a particular notice period from her discussions with the employer?
This happened to me about a year and a half ago. Job offer withdrawn at the last minute. Nothing that could be realistically be done but I managed to stay in my old job because they hadn't yet found a replacement. Nothing to do with saving face, I walked in and told them I wasn't leaving anymore!
Almost a year later a cracking job fell into my lap and I left for good. Made damn sure I had a signes contract but was still worried it'd happen again.
Hopefully it'll all work out for her :-)
Almost a year later a cracking job fell into my lap and I left for good. Made damn sure I had a signes contract but was still worried it'd happen again.
Hopefully it'll all work out for her :-)
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