Cayman S PDK
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mc_blue

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2,548 posts

236 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Hi all,

I'm potentially a new recruit to the Porsche fraternity and have seen a stock vehicle that I like the look of. The specification is good - including PASM, Sport Chrono, PDK, SportDesign steering wheel and so on.

The list is £64k. If I take Porsche's PCP I've been advised that £60k might be realistic. What would you guys say is a realistic figure to achieve? I've also got to be mindful of the fact that the GTS model is out soon too.

Thanks

Edited by mc_blue on Friday 7th February 19:49

2010spy

1,916 posts

182 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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I would go for at least 10% discount on a stock car. I was offered 10% before bargaining on a stock (new) car.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

283 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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It would have to be 100% perfect spec for that money.
Other wise order new, ask for a discount and get the new reg.

truck71

2,328 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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I managed 11% on a stock 981 Cayman albeit a much cheaper one than that, price needs to start with a 5.

mc_blue

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2,548 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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mrdemon said:
It would have to be 100% perfect spec for that money.
Other wise order new, ask for a discount and get the new reg.
To be fair as soon as I saw the car I loved it - only missing PSE but that can be retrofitted. Thinking of saying £60k and fit the PSE. Does that sound good?

What sort of discount could I realise on a factory order? I would think the stock car should attract a better discount as they don't want to hold on to a car?

truck71 said:
I managed 11% on a stock 981 Cayman albeit a much cheaper one than that, price needs to start with a 5.
How are you finding your car. What spec have you got?

truck71

2,328 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Really enjoying my car (2.7 pdk with 19" wheels and a few other bits and bobs)- it makes a great all rounder, very comfortable on long journeys, frugal, practical and yet very engaging when the mood takes you. I made a conscious decision to get a very low spec car because the basic package is so good, I would be doing 25,000 miles a year so depreciation would be significant and having had a Tuscan previously I'd got the "fast straight line thing" out of my system. In reality the only time I could extend that car was in Europe.

So far I don't regret the decision to save 7 odd grand with the smaller engine, with the PDK box it is plenty quick enough for my needs. I would fully understand others having a different view with the engine, for some people it will be worth the extra. Ride on 19" wheels on standard suspension is excellent and the standard seats are plenty supportive enough for me- I adjusted them a few times when I got it and haven't moved them since so the multi electric option would be wasted. Standard interior is as good a quality of any car I've had previously and it doesn't disappoint, others prefer the full leather pack- it's an individual thing.

To get a bit of perspective I paid circa 2/3 of the asking price of the one you're looking at- good luck whatever you choose to do.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

283 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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When ordering new, I don't like asking for a discount, I said I,ll pay full RRP but can I have the PSE and PCM free.

Seems to work better than asking for money off.

As for the stock car, if it's not been registered then they will be in no rush to sell it. They like to have tempting stock to sell to people for full price as they don't have to wait for a car for 3 months. Most people don't like waiting once they have made up their mind and if I were a dealer I would see this in the buyer and not offer a discount, or only a token one.

PowerMalc

222 posts

162 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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I got 10% off a new Boxster built to my spec, took about 12 weeks to come through.
However this was linked to having a Porsche PCP. I changed my mind and wanted to pay for it on a personal bank loan, they then said that discount level was not achievable. Long story short, agreed to take it on a Porsche HP agreement and paid it off a month later.
So, yes I still got 10% off the list price including options.

The Porsche configurator code is PEXAX943

mc_blue

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2,548 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Thanks guys.

Just seen another one registered with 100 miles. Lists at £66k being offered at £61k with PSE retrofit too (was advised this is a £2k option). So it looks like there's some room for negotiation.

Scottish981

51 posts

143 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Always room for negotiation. I bought my 981CS the 28th of december and because they wanted to close the deal before the end of the year books closed i got £7k off of an already awesome spec'd car sitting in a hanger down south... Happy days biggrin

matsoc

853 posts

150 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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mrdemon said:
It would have to be 100% perfect spec for that money.
Other wise order new, ask for a discount and get the new reg.
Agree, the option list is long and complex, I wouldn't want something I don't need or the lack of something I would like for a £4k discount on a stock car. Considering you will get some discount even on the perfectly specced car you may order

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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mrdemon said:
When ordering new, I don't like asking for a discount, I said I,ll pay full RRP but can I have the PSE and PCM free.
Are you a professional negotiator?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

283 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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GreatPretender said:
Are you a professional negotiator?
Yes .

mc_blue

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2,548 posts

236 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I've reached a quandary. Basically, I need to work out if I'm happy to part with my hard earned on a depreciating asset. I feel a certain amount of man maths is required to justify this purchase.

However, given the cost, wouldn't the rational decision be to buy a car 12 months old that's suffered some depreciation already? They don't appear to hold value that well. Would 50% retained value after 3 years be anywhere realistic?

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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mrdemon said:
GreatPretender said:
Are you a professional negotiator?
Yes .
Oh.

nsm3

2,831 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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mc_blue said:
I've reached a quandary. Basically, I need to work out if I'm happy to part with my hard earned on a depreciating asset. I feel a certain amount of man maths is required to justify this purchase.

However, given the cost, wouldn't the rational decision be to buy a car 12 months old that's suffered some depreciation already? They don't appear to hold value that well. Would 50% retained value after 3 years be anywhere realistic?
If you are in for 3 years, you will lose a shed load and would be better going year old used IMHO.

I went new, but intend to keep for 8 years minimum, which should keep the overall loss pa reasonable(ish)?

mc_blue

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2,548 posts

236 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Thanks for your reply. Yes I agree new cars are very expensive aren't they however if I can get a good deal on a stock vehicle it will help reduce any depreciation? I.e. £66k list can get 10% off I'm sure I'd get £30k after three years.

Other option would be to just keep the car for a longer term as you've stated above - maybe 5 years or so.

truck71

2,328 posts

190 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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mc_blue said:
I've reached a quandary. Basically, I need to work out if I'm happy to part with my hard earned on a depreciating asset. I feel a certain amount of man maths is required to justify this purchase.

However, given the cost, wouldn't the rational decision be to buy a car 12 months old that's suffered some depreciation already? They don't appear to hold value that well. Would 50% retained value after 3 years be anywhere realistic?
I think the challenge here is finding a 12mth old car that isn't an ex demonstrator. The Cayman was only released last March so I assume most owners won't be chopping them in for a while.

Ex demo's don't seem to be cheap enough for what is a used car and may not have been treated kindly- the two I drove certainly weren't. There might be a better chance of getting a used 981 Boxster if that's an option.

mc_blue

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236 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Or what about a stock car which matches my spec with 10% off? Not yet registered.

truck71

2,328 posts

190 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Oh definitely, that's what I did. Haggle hard, try to get the gap insurance thrown in (I cocked that bit up) and be prepared to spend an afternoon on the phone calling dealers. Some will spout nonsense but you'll find one who wants your business- go for it.