Should the car go to the main dealer for a service?
Should the car go to the main dealer for a service?
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VX5195

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147 posts

166 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Hi guys,

My Mum has a 12 plate SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI CR FR and is coming up for its first service.

I work as an apprentice (so far for two and a half years) at a VAG Specialist and was wondering should the car go to the local SEAT Dealer for it's first service or should my work place do it.

Obviously, my work place would be a lot cheaper and we use Genuine Parts so no issues there, but I am a little concerned that if anything should happen under warranty, then they might try and wriggle out of it because the car wasn't serviced by them.

Also, the car is currently on LongLife intervals (up to 2 years or 19,000 miles) but as she covers less than 10,000 miles per year, would you think it would be good to change it to Fixed Intervals (every year or 10,000 miles) whilst it is still under warranty?

Just want the best for my Mum and her car you know smile

Many thanks

STW2010

5,918 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Depends on the terms of the warranty. I might be wrong, but if the interim services (i.e. the unscheduled ones) are done at the VAG specialist then there shouldn't be a problem.

wemorgan

3,583 posts

208 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Of the few times I've had a new car in warranty I've serviced it at main dealer. Once outside of warranty period I use specialists or self-service depending on the car's value.

AKAIK the Longlife services were more geared towards those doing high annual mileage. So the car would still only need to visit the dealer once a year. There's no harm in keeping the Longlife service but still taking it back to the dealer once a year. I know on some cars a higher quality oil is used for Longlife services.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

189 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Is your place VAT registered?
Does it use OEM parts?

Is the car leased? Anything in the small print to say that franchised dealers must be used?

No point in paying franchised costs if you don't have to.

zeduffman

4,318 posts

181 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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She should be on the fixed term service. Longlife is for those who do a lot of steady motorway miles on a regular basis. If you're pratting around town or rag it down country lanes and don't do many miles (especially lots of short journeys), then you need the shorter intervals. 2 years before the first service seems quite high to me? I would've thought you'd want to get the first oil change out the way before then, but I'm no expert.

I think most stealers/indies just use the higher grade Longlife oil regardless of the type of service to save on stocking costs.

As for the warranty, it stays intact as long as genuine OEM parts are used, so you can save yourself a fair chunk by going to an indy and you shouldn't have any issues.

Edited by zeduffman on Saturday 8th February 14:04

HumbleJim

29,007 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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VX5195 said:
Hi guys,

My Mum has a 12 plate SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI CR FR and is coming up for its first service.

I work as an apprentice (so far for two and a half years) at a VAG Specialist and was wondering should the car go to the local SEAT Dealer for it's first service or should my work place do it.

Obviously, my work place would be a lot cheaper and we use Genuine Parts so no issues there, but I am a little concerned that if anything should happen under warranty, then they might try and wriggle out of it because the car wasn't serviced by them.

Also, the car is currently on LongLife intervals (up to 2 years or 19,000 miles) but as she covers less than 10,000 miles per year, would you think it would be good to change it to Fixed Intervals (every year or 10,000 miles) whilst it is still under warranty?

Just want the best for my Mum and her car you know smile

Many thanks
Why don't you do the service @ the specialist and telephone the dealer to ask for any updates/recalls etc.

Countdown

49,439 posts

226 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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As long as you can prove that OEM parts were used I don't think it invalidates any Warranty.

VX5195

Original Poster:

147 posts

166 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Troubleatmill said:
Is your place VAT registered?
Does it use OEM parts?

Is the car leased? Anything in the small print to say that franchised dealers must be used?

No point in paying franchised costs if you don't have to.
Yes we are VAT Registered (have been running for about 26 years now) and use Genuine parts. The car is outright owned by herself (not leased or on finance)

watchnut

1,301 posts

159 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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I think under EU law, that provided the car is serviced "as per how Seat would do it", using correct parts then the warrenty is still valid regardless. this i think was bought in to stop the dealers charging too much and keep the costs down. At least if you do it it will, it will be done properly

Disco You

3,749 posts

210 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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VX5195 said:
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Obviously, my work place would be a lot cheaper and we use Genuine Parts so no issues there, but I am a little concerned that if anything should happen under warranty, then they might try and wriggle out of it because the car wasn't serviced by them.
Provided you use genuine parts (which you've said you will do) that would be illegal.

KD678

10 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Wasn't this where the EU deemed 'block exemption' illegal? Basically you can get the car serviced to the same standard. I heard of a Skoda dealer who was opposite the Audi dealer and was full of Audi's for services. You do not even have to go to a specialist to find a cheaper service

VX5195

Original Poster:

147 posts

166 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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However, would a Full VAG Specialist service history hurt its resale value when the time comes to move it on?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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I can't imagine the difference in overall costs in the first 5 years of that car's life will be significant between main dealer and under the railway arches.

BUT

If you want the comfort of a possible "goodwill" contributions from the manufacturer in the event of major failures outside the warranty period you need to stay in the main dealer network.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

243 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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The Block Exemption Rule prevents the main dealer getting out of the warranty. As long as OEM parts are used and the correct oil is used there are no issues

Engineer1

10,486 posts

239 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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First few services id go main dealer as until after the warranty expires main dealer service is building good will should it have a problem just out of warranty.