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vanordinaire

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3,701 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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I was moaning today about having wasted £300 on buying winter tyres this year and we've hardly even seen a snowflake. My wife came up with the statement that I also wasted £1500 on insurance for our 4 cars as we hadn't had an accident this year. I'm not sure if she realised she was sort of making a sensible point.

R36vw

451 posts

176 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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Uh oh......sense yes but also a hint about..."why do we need 4 cars?" Watch out.

33q

1,628 posts

153 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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Someone asked me why I'd got 4 cars. Because I have not chosen the fifth was my reply!

We are down to two now.....retirement is great but it does have a nasty effect on disposable income.

goldblum

10,272 posts

197 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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vanordinaire said:
I was moaning today about having wasted £300 on buying winter tyres this year and we've hardly even seen a snowflake. My wife came up with the statement that I also wasted £1500 on insurance for our 4 cars as we hadn't had an accident this year. I'm not sure if she realised she was sort of making a sensible point.
How d'you figure?

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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vanordinaire said:
I was moaning today about having wasted £300 on buying winter tyres this year and we've hardly even seen a snowflake. My wife came up with the statement that I also wasted £1500 on insurance for our 4 cars as we hadn't had an accident this year. I'm not sure if she realised she was sort of making a sensible point.
She's right in a way - you should crash all four of them all into each other at once in order to obtain maximum value from your premiums.

Actually smash 'em into the house - you may as well get some value out of those premiums as well.

VBRJ

6,128 posts

207 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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So, winter tyres are a waste of time after all then?

getmecoat

Garagedood

49 posts

168 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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I have four cars also, I just smile and pay up, my very bright son did ask why I have to pay four lots of insurance when I can only drive one at a time.....out of the mouths of babes.....and by the way, winter tyres are worth every penny when the white stuff comes along.

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Your son is absolutely right.

The risk of fire/theft damage for each car is thd same, but the risk of accident in any one car is reduced substantially if you have four cars. An insurance premium should (and possibly does) reflect that though, as you probably are only insured based on very low annual mileage.

Ari

19,822 posts

245 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Matt UK said:
She's right in a way - you should crash all four of them all into each other at once in order to obtain maximum value from your premiums.

Actually smash 'em into the house - you may as well get some value out of those premiums as well.
Surely if you smash a car into a house the car policy pays out, not the house policy..?

chunoo

1,183 posts

265 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Just looked out of my window this morning and there's quite a bit of snow coming down, so they might not have been a waste yet!

vanordinaire

Original Poster:

3,701 posts

192 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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goldblum said:
vanordinaire said:
I was moaning today about having wasted £300 on buying winter tyres this year and we've hardly even seen a snowflake. My wife came up with the statement that I also wasted £1500 on insurance for our 4 cars as we hadn't had an accident this year. I'm not sure if she realised she was sort of making a sensible point.
How d'you figure?
She was making the point that the snow tyres were another kind of insurance and it didn't really matter that I haven't needed them.

33q

1,628 posts

153 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Remember winter tyres are for cold wet weather under 7C. Not just for snow.

My winters have been on since November and will stay on until the end of March

TheD

3,142 posts

229 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Up here I've seen it snowing heavily in May. Once while fishing it was practically a white out. Plenty time yet

Madkat

1,147 posts

202 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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She is smart and right too.... When will we have the day when we have one policy and a card reader or similar in each car and before we set off we have to enter a card and pin code to activate the insurance before letting the car set off and some kinda time delay when the ignition is switched off. can't be hard to do. Wheras the policy by default covers all the cars for fire and theft simultaneously. (Not like those black box things).

goldblum

10,272 posts

197 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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vanordinaire said:
goldblum said:
vanordinaire said:
I was moaning today about having wasted £300 on buying winter tyres this year and we've hardly even seen a snowflake. My wife came up with the statement that I also wasted £1500 on insurance for our 4 cars as we hadn't had an accident this year. I'm not sure if she realised she was sort of making a sensible point.
How d'you figure?
She was making the point that the snow tyres were another kind of insurance and it didn't really matter that I haven't needed them.
No, really? rofl

Car insurance is a legal requirement, winter tyres are not. Winter tyres are not a kind of insurance, most accidents happen in snow in situations where other driver stupidity is to blame and your tyres make little/no difference. If everyone drove to the conditions it would make a far greater impact than if everyone fitted winters. The below 7c (oh but there was ice on my car this morning mwaa mwaa) argument doesn't wash either - summer tyres aren't unsafe at lower temps ffs. If you think it's icy just drive slower but the idiot tailgating you isn't interested what tyres you've got.

prand

6,244 posts

226 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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33q said:
Remember winter tyres are for cold wet weather under 7C. Not just for snow.

My winters have been on since November and will stay on until the end of March
I was thinking about this, with the amount of wet roads around me over the last two months, I've noticed my normally very grippy front tyres seem to want to understeer and wheelspin a lot.

A change in driving style obvioulsy helps sort this out to an extent, but perhaps some winter tyres would too?

It's goign to be interesting in the coming week when we are due a cold snap, and all this water turns to ice.

T1berious

2,671 posts

185 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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33q said:
Remember winter tyres are for cold wet weather under 7C. Not just for snow.

My winters have been on since November and will stay on until the end of March
^This^

Plus winters are way better in the wet, which we seem to be seeing alot of. Braking is night and day better from my summers in the wet.

goldblum

10,272 posts

197 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Winters will help on ice, but obviously you'll still need to drive with caution. Like I've said, if you drive sensibly it's only everyone else on the road you have to worry about.

alock

4,559 posts

241 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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T1berious said:
33q said:
Remember winter tyres are for cold wet weather under 7C. Not just for snow.

My winters have been on since November and will stay on until the end of March
^This^

Plus winters are way better in the wet, which we seem to be seeing alot of. Braking is night and day better from my summers in the wet.
At 10°, Autocar found winter tyres had 14% longer braking distances in the wet.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/winter-tyres-te...

Other reviews I've read in the past imply this as well. If you think about it, it makes more sense. High performance summer tyres have treads cut at an angle specifically to help disperse water at speed. Winter tyres typically have treads cut across the tyre to aid grip on surfaces such as snow.

goldblum

10,272 posts

197 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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T1berious said:
^This^

Plus winters are way better in the wet, which we seem to be seeing alot of. Braking is night and day better from my summers in the wet.
But you've slowed down anyway, or are you driving just as fast?