measuring tyre depth?
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vrooom

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297 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Do I measure the tyre depth by resting my depth tool on those wear bar or anywhere on tyre in the grooves?

Charlie Michael

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214 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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vrooom said:
Do I measure the tyre depth by resting my depth tool on those wear bar or anywhere on tyre in the grooves?
I'd measure across the middle 3/4 of the tyre groove.

The wear bar is the legal minimum of tread depth.

Getragdogleg

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213 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Tyre tread depth is measured over 3/4s of the tread.

On a car this is 1.6 mm. The wear bars should be at that point to indicate to you when you need to change the tyres.

To accurately ensure you have 1.6mm (or over) on 3/4s of the width of your tyres you ought to get a piece of paper the same length as the width of the tyre at the tread, fold it in half and half again and then remove one of the quarters, put the middle of your strip of paper at the centre of the tread, this gives the width of tyre you need to have 1.6mm at, some shoulder wear is ok because it falls out of the 3/4s for measuring purposes.


Cupramax

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282 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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vrooom said:
Do I measure the tyre depth by resting my depth tool on those wear bar or anywhere on tyre

zeduffman

4,318 posts

181 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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I use a 20p piece. The border around the outside is 2mm. If you're getting below that it's time to change.

HertsBiker

6,443 posts

301 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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If it looks bad, it probably is. I'm super eagle eyed at spotting bad tyres, if you need to ask it's probably knackered?

vrooom

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297 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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im replacing 1 mis-matching tyre on same axle on my car. im buying used matching tyre cheap enough.

kambites

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251 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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You measure into the groove. The idea of the wear bars is that the tyre needs replacing when the surface is flush with the bar (although personally I don't tend to let my tyres get that low).

Legally, I think you need 1.6mm over all of the centre 75% of the tread.

mcford

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204 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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The definition of a tyre tread pattern is:

A tread pattern is the combination of plain surfaces and grooves extending across the breadth of the tread and round the entire circumference. The tread pattern excludes any tie- bars, tread wear indicators, or features designed to wear out substantially before the remainder of the pattern, and other minor features. Grooves that had not been cut as deep as those containing the wear indicators when new are not to be considered as part of the tread pattern.


Which means that a tyre can look totally illegal when it isn't.

carl_w

10,752 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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My understanding is that the middle 75% is the bit between the inner and outer wear bars. So if both of these are below the tread depth, unless the middle of the tyre has suffered some sort of catastrophic failure then it's all OK.

Athlon

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236 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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When it comes to assessing tyres, it seems that some testers have difficulty identifying which tread grooves are important when assessing the minimum tread depth requirements. Here we explain the important factors that you need to take into consideration when making any assessment.

Breadth of tread

The breadth of tread is any part of the tyre that can contact the road under normal driving conditions measured at 90° to the peripheral line of the tread. In simple terms, this is any part of the tyre that contacts the road under normal driving conditions.

Tread pattern

The tread pattern is a combination of plain surfaces and grooves extending across the breadth of tread and around the circumference of the tyre. This excludes any features designed to wear out substantially before the rest of the pattern.

But how do you establish which features are designed to wear out considerably before the rest of the pattern?

When you assess the grooves to which the legal minimum tread depth requirements apply, you must establish which grooves are the primary tread grooves.

Primary grooves

The primary grooves of any tyre are those grooves that contain the tread wear indicators (TWIs) or those that were originally moulded to the same depth as them.. Evidence of TWIs can usually be seen in those grooves designed to have them and their position is normally marked on the sidewall of the tyre at the shoulder of the tread. Generally, TWI’s are marked with a small arrow or ‘TWI’, however some manufacturers use their own specific markings.

Secondary Grooves

These grooves are not of equal depth to those with TWI’s and are designed to wear out before the primary grooves.





Making your assessment

Vehicles where 1.6mm tread depth applies

When you assess the central three-quarters of any tyre, remember that the breadth of tread includes plain surfaces and any grooves. When you assess the minimum tread depth requirements, you only need to measure the primary grooves, those grooves that contain the TWIs or those that were originally moulded to the same depth as them.

You might find secondary grooves within the central three-quarters, and they may be below the required minimum tread depth requirements. Even if this is the case, provided the primary grooves meet the minimum depth requirements, the tyre is acceptable for this part of the inspection.

The tread pattern outside of the central ¾ of the breadth of tread can be bald.

Vehicles where 1.0mm tread depth applies

There is only a requirement for the primary grooves to meet the minimum tread depth. However, in this case the 1.0mm applies to any ¾ of the breadth of tread which is continuous around the entire circumference of the tyre. Additionally, no part of the primary grooves outside of the measured ¾ breadth of tread can be bald.

Further information can be found in section 4.1 of the MOT inspection manual.

From VOSA's publication 'Matters of Testing'

carl_w

10,752 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Athlon said:
When it comes to assessing tyres, it seems that some testers have difficulty identifying which tread grooves are important when assessing the minimum tread depth requirements. Here we explain the important factors that you need to take into consideration when making any assessment.
Really? I've never seen a tyre where it wasn't obvious which were the "primary" grooves.

Athlon

5,893 posts

236 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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That was the opening line in the article, I don't struggle either but it seems some do.

CO2000

3,177 posts

239 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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I seem to remember the wear indicators (bars) being 2mm high. I'm carrying a digital vernier around in the glove box as I have one rear tyre at 2.54mm! (It's fwd so so last a while yet)