What's the coolest 4WD saloon/estate?
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What do you get if you would like something like this:

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but practicality (family) dictates that you need something like this:

I've been driving an SUV (2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee) for a while and have decided that my next vehicle will be a car, as I'm prepared to sacrifice some ground clearance/off-road ability for better performance and handling.
I would definitely be looking to buy one of these:

if only it was 4WD (but then I guess it wouldn't be an M5)! The roads are just so treacherous here (Canada) in winter that I would like the security of 4WD/AWD, which a 400bhp RWDer isn't going to give me!
I don't care what other people think (I was thinking more PH cool) but would like something where I don't feel hard done by for having to choose the "practical" option. I'm fairly open on age but ideally something newer and lower mileage than my current Jeep. My preference is a manual but that limits my options, so would consider an auto. I've done the whole Impreza thing and they're awesome but I'm older now so would prefer something a bit more grown up.
Is this the coolest 4WD saloon/estate out there?

They're pretty rare here (only 17 for sale on Autotrader)but tick all the boxes and I'd be looking at about 25000 pounds for a 2007 (definitely don't want to be spending any more than this). Normally the Avant version is cooler but I actually prefer the saloon version of these.
Obviously, it's not exactly going to be economical but then I'm used to 18mpg with the Jeep, so I can live with that for the near supercar performance!
How about reliability, servicing and running costs though? I presume they need V Power or similar and what are they like on fuel range (petrol stations are pretty sparse out here)!
Looking around, a D2 S8 (Ronin-style) or RS6 (the twin turbo V8 one - sorry not very good with my Audi model codes) would be about half the price but obviously older and probably much higher mileage.
Would an S4 offer a similar drive for less or are they completely different animals. I thought I heard that the manual S4s were to be avoided!
Are there any other non-Audi options that I haven't thought of?
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but practicality (family) dictates that you need something like this:
I've been driving an SUV (2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee) for a while and have decided that my next vehicle will be a car, as I'm prepared to sacrifice some ground clearance/off-road ability for better performance and handling.
I would definitely be looking to buy one of these:
if only it was 4WD (but then I guess it wouldn't be an M5)! The roads are just so treacherous here (Canada) in winter that I would like the security of 4WD/AWD, which a 400bhp RWDer isn't going to give me!
I don't care what other people think (I was thinking more PH cool) but would like something where I don't feel hard done by for having to choose the "practical" option. I'm fairly open on age but ideally something newer and lower mileage than my current Jeep. My preference is a manual but that limits my options, so would consider an auto. I've done the whole Impreza thing and they're awesome but I'm older now so would prefer something a bit more grown up.
Is this the coolest 4WD saloon/estate out there?
They're pretty rare here (only 17 for sale on Autotrader)but tick all the boxes and I'd be looking at about 25000 pounds for a 2007 (definitely don't want to be spending any more than this). Normally the Avant version is cooler but I actually prefer the saloon version of these.
Obviously, it's not exactly going to be economical but then I'm used to 18mpg with the Jeep, so I can live with that for the near supercar performance!
How about reliability, servicing and running costs though? I presume they need V Power or similar and what are they like on fuel range (petrol stations are pretty sparse out here)!
Looking around, a D2 S8 (Ronin-style) or RS6 (the twin turbo V8 one - sorry not very good with my Audi model codes) would be about half the price but obviously older and probably much higher mileage.
Would an S4 offer a similar drive for less or are they completely different animals. I thought I heard that the manual S4s were to be avoided!
Are there any other non-Audi options that I haven't thought of?
campionissimo said:
Subaru Legacy 3.0R spec B.
Flat 6, 242 bhp, 4wd.
Good call. This is probably what I would get but I prefer the estate bodystyle (not available here) and the Spec B here also has the 2.5 turbo Impreza engine and an auto box. This would be a nice car with a manual but would suck with an auto probably!Flat 6, 242 bhp, 4wd.
MonkeyMatt said:
Zad said:
What, something like this?

Ferrari 456 estate.
is that a rare 4x4 version 
Ferrari 456 estate.


ETA, to fulfil the OP's requirement (and the topic) stop messing around with 4WD tarmac cars and go straight for the daddy - V8 Range Rover.
Edited by Zad on Wednesday 12th February 21:20
white_goodman said:
campionissimo said:
Subaru Legacy 3.0R spec B.
Flat 6, 242 bhp, 4wd.
Good call. This is probably what I would get but I prefer the estate bodystyle (not available here) and the Spec B here also has the 2.5 turbo Impreza engine and an auto box. This would be a nice car with a manual but would suck with an auto probably!Flat 6, 242 bhp, 4wd.
then again, although its a bit SUVish, theres always the infiniti FX45 - they make a great noise too
Edited by sawman on Wednesday 12th February 21:39
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