Girls bike advice - "Raleigh Starz" ?
Girls bike advice - "Raleigh Starz" ?
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james_tigerwoods

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16,347 posts

226 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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We want to get a decent bike for my daughter's 6th birthday, something that will last her a while. To that end, we've been guided towards this:

www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product...

A "Raleigh Starz" bike.

Has anyone got an opinion or view on this bike - and or what better alternative there is? And, if it's ok, where's the best (cheapest) place to get it from - the best price I've seen is from Winstanley bikes at £150.

Thanks

JTW

loudlashadjuster

6,420 posts

213 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Standard "get an Islabike" answer I'm afraid!

The Beinn 20" (large or small, depending on your daughter's size) is the closest equivalent.



http://www.islabikes.co.uk/bike_pages/beinn20lrg.h...

OK, they're a bit more expensive, but where the Raleigh will get you ~30-40% of its original purchase price back on Ebay (about £50 seems to be the mark for the 20"), the Islabike will still be worth 60-70% (many are going for over £200), meaning in most cases the Islabike will be cheaper overall.

In the meantime the Islabike will be a much better bike in every area. My kids have had three (Rothan, Cnoc 14 and Beinn 20) and there's no way I'd buy anything else for them after experiencing what some of the bikes their friends have for not much less initial outlay.

Sorry to come across as one of those tiresome Islabike evangelists biggrin but they really are great.

james_tigerwoods

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16,347 posts

226 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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I've never heard of them, if I'm honest - I wasn't really sure what the going price is for kids bikes...

CoolC

4,500 posts

243 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Have a look what's on Ebay etc close to you.

At that age group, the bike often sit in a garage hardly used until they grow out of them, so there are some bargain "as new" bikes to be had if you can be patient.

Also, as the bike will inevitable get bashed, scratched, and generally abused there is no point buying new, let someone else take that hit.


I'm a stingy bugger who hates spending moneygetmecoat

james_tigerwoods

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16,347 posts

226 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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CoolC said:
Have a look what's on Ebay etc close to you.

At that age group, the bike often sit in a garage hardly used until they grow out of them, so there are some bargain "as new" bikes to be had if you can be patient.

Also, as the bike will inevitable get bashed, scratched, and generally abused there is no point buying new, let someone else take that hit.


I'm a stingy bugger who hates spending moneygetmecoat
I agree with your view - There's not much local to me though frown

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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james_tigerwoods said:
CoolC said:
Have a look what's on Ebay etc close to you.

At that age group, the bike often sit in a garage hardly used until they grow out of them, so there are some bargain "as new" bikes to be had if you can be patient.

Also, as the bike will inevitable get bashed, scratched, and generally abused there is no point buying new, let someone else take that hit.


I'm a stingy bugger who hates spending moneygetmecoat
I agree with your view - There's not much local to me though frown
I'm of the opinion that a crap bike that gets used is infinetly better than a better that spends its life in the shed because it isn't pink with tassels and pictures of Barbie/Dora/Minny mouse etc.

james_tigerwoods

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16,347 posts

226 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Her current (14") bike sat, unused in the garage for nearly 2 years after her third birthday - It's been well used in the last 6 months, but before that, was an expensive carbunkle.

Well, it cost £80 from a bike shop so can't really complain. Trouble is, it's only me that takes her out and I have a road bike which makes keeping my speed low enough to match hers difficult (and I can't justify buying another bike at all).

It had tassles and a "bear" seat and a bag on the front - And weighed more than several small buildings...

I don't mind buying a decent bike, but when the costs spiral, that's when I mind - hence this thread smile

Patch1875

5,062 posts

161 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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We got this for our daughter this Christmas, excellent bike she loves it. Much better quality bike than the last halfords effort.

Think it was £200.


Coco H

4,237 posts

266 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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loudlashadjuster said:
Standard "get an Islabike" answer I'm afraid!

The Beinn 20" (large or small, depending on your daughter's size) is the closest equivalent.



http://www.islabikes.co.uk/bike_pages/beinn20lrg.h...

OK, they're a bit more expensive, but where the Raleigh will get you ~30-40% of its original purchase price back on Ebay (about £50 seems to be the mark for the 20"), the Islabike will still be worth 60-70% (many are going for over £200), meaning in most cases the Islabike will be cheaper overall.

In the meantime the Islabike will be a much better bike in every area. My kids have had three (Rothan, Cnoc 14 and Beinn 20) and there's no way I'd buy anything else for them after experiencing what some of the bikes their friends have for not much less initial outlay.

Sorry to come across as one of those tiresome Islabike evangelists biggrin but they really are great.
I am looking at a 24. The issue I have is £350 is a lot for a bike for an 8 year old. Yes I might get some money back after it's done 3 children but unlikely as it's going to have to take a huge battering. Besides, I am riding a battered hybrid with a bent wheel which I do 5 hours a week on and I don t' want my son beating me.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

239 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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^ It's a £100 [= 1 crap bike] per child. Good value. Evans' Pinnacles are worth a look too though, and Dawes Academy range.



Silver940

3,967 posts

256 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Frog bikes also very light and designed with the same ethos as Isla Bikes. Few more dealers about the country so easier to get to see one.

That said the best bike for her is one she actually wants to ride.




james_tigerwoods

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16,347 posts

226 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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We've been looking around and "Falcon" bikes is based locally to us and there's a bike shop that stocks them - she's seen one she likes too. We're going to revisit the shop on Friday and choose from their selection smile

james_tigerwoods

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16,347 posts

226 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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I also have a moral dilemma - The bike is £150 in the shop (about what I expected to pay and there's room for negotiation there too) but I can get it for £100 online... I'm all for supporting local businesses, but I can save money here...


Coco H

4,237 posts

266 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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richardxjr said:
^ It's a £100 [= 1 crap bike] per child. Good value. Evans' Pinnacles are worth a look too though, and Dawes Academy range.


That's a thought. He's currently got a lighteight (carbon fibre I think) specialized but it needs about £100 of repairs (it was a freebie from a friend). I now wonder if the repairs are worthwhile.
I've checked those others out and they are on the list should we replace thanks