Car sales 5 day week with a Sunday off?
Car sales 5 day week with a Sunday off?
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fcuk1_6

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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I am considering a move back to car sales but don't want to give up the important things to me. The reason I left the motor trade was although I worked a 5 day week, I worked every weekend which meant I couldn't get time off with my girlfriend or friends. I see Peter Vardy are closed on a Sunday and know Phoenix Car Company work a 5 day week, but is there anyone in or around Glasgow that combines these two?

Vaud

59,352 posts

184 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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fk1_6 said:
I am considering a move back to car sales but don't want to give up the important things to me. The reason I left the motor trade was although I worked a 5 day week, I worked every weekend which meant I couldn't get time off with my girlfriend or friends. I see Peter Vardy are closed on a Sunday and know Phoenix Car Company work a 5 day week, but is there anyone in or around Glasgow that combines these two?
If you are half good at selling then get into B2B IT - always Mon-Fri, and there is money to be made.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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I used to work a 66 hour week,selling cars and won't name the company, I actually loved the job but the hours were just too much. Based in the south of Glasgow too. I think it must be a tough gig nowadays competing with internet prices but the hours seem more relaxed now, the sales guy in my local BMW seems to never be at work, maybe he's avoiding me.

fcuk1_6

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Vaud said:
If you are half good at selling then get into B2B IT - always Mon-Fri, and there is money to be made.
It's really the "car" part of car sales that interests me / I enjoy as I am a bit of a car nut. I've since been internal and external sales in electronics but didn't/don't enjoy it nearly as much as I wasn't interested in the product. I did go into vehicle leasing briefly which was better working hours but as its over the phone and your not working with the product it really wasn't the same.

I know I'm really wanting my cake and to eat it but worth asking about. Heard an ad looking for sales execs for Motorpoint with a 5 day week but they're open on a Sunday frown

okgo

42,111 posts

227 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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I don't know if you perhaps aren't using your brain, but I'll help you...

People/Joe public generally work Monday-Friday. If they want to go and browse a car showroom, its likely the only time they (both husband and wife/kids (they go to school you see)) can make it to see/test drive/agree on a car is at the weekend. Therefore I would challenge you to find any car dealer that doesn't open on weekends, it would be commercial suicide not to, unless it was totally fleet or something like that.

If you do not want to work weekends, a general rule of thumb is, do not sell products where the buyers are the public.

Vaud

59,352 posts

184 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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fk1_6 said:
It's really the "car" part of car sales that interests me / I enjoy as I am a bit of a car nut. I've since been internal and external sales in electronics but didn't/don't enjoy it nearly as much as I wasn't interested in the product. I did go into vehicle leasing briefly which was better working hours but as its over the phone and your not working with the product it really wasn't the same.

I know I'm really wanting my cake and to eat it but worth asking about. Heard an ad looking for sales execs for Motorpoint with a 5 day week but they're open on a Sunday frown
Bottom line is if you want your weekend, don't sell to consumers - sell to businesses.

NPI

1,310 posts

153 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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fk1_6 said:
It's really the "car" part of car sales that interests me / I enjoy as I am a bit of a car nut.
Ordinary car sales probably isn't the right thing for you then.

fcuk1_6

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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okgo said:
I don't know if you perhaps aren't using your brain, but I'll help you...

People/Joe public generally work Monday-Friday. If they want to go and browse a car showroom, its likely the only time they (both husband and wife/kids (they go to school you see)) can make it to see/test drive/agree on a car is at the weekend. Therefore I would challenge you to find any car dealer that doesn't open on weekends, it would be commercial suicide not to, unless it was totally fleet or something like that.

If you do not want to work weekends, a general rule of thumb is, do not sell products where the buyers are the public.
There's no need to be offensive...
I fully understand the commercial argument for working weekends (I have not mentioned being off weekends just Sundays) in car sales and I am happy to work Saturdays but I feel a Sunday off with another day off during the week isn't unreasonable and having lived in Spain previously it works fine for them.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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fk1_6 said:
I fully understand the commercial argument for working weekends in car sales and I am happy to work Saturdays but I feel a Sunday off with another day off during the week isn't unreasonable and having lived in Spain previously it works fine for them.
Sell cars in Spain then, but in the UK we have Sunday opening, a family wanting to change car may spend the entire weekend visiting multiple dealerships looking for the right car, specially if they are on a deadline to change (end of PCP or car that needs £XXX to pass it's next MOT)

spats

838 posts

184 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Every car sales place I worked at wanted me to work 6 days one week, 5 the next!

Eventually I fell into van sales and we shut Sunday and half day Saturday which was the best I found.

I got out of car sales as i was fed up with:

A: constantly being treated like a scumbag rip merchant.
B: having to deal with online, which meant 0 profit to actually earn anything
C: silly long hours, expected to literally be phoning non existant leads 24/7 or be running after customers the moment they even blinked at the forecourt
D: Finding out that its always the workshop vs the sales team, rather than working together.

generally enjoyed it when I was selling vans but in cars its a total arseache!

fcuk1_6

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Engineer1 said:
Sell cars in Spain then, but in the UK we have Sunday opening, a family wanting to change car may spend the entire weekend visiting multiple dealerships looking for the right car, specially if they are on a deadline to change (end of PCP or car that needs £XXX to pass it's next MOT)
I'm using Spain as a first hand example, there are plenty of countries have one day that is considered a day of rest for all bar the most essential services. Unfortunately here in the UK we do seem be of the opinion that everything we could want or need should always be available whenever it is convenient to us rather than considering those expected to work during these times like weekends, late nights, bank holidays etc...
Surely if you have a deadline such as MOT coming up or PCP deal running out joe public can do a bit of forward planning and look over two Saturdays rather than one full weekend which also allows time to think things over which customers always seem to want to do?
Services such as local GPs and the vast majority or repair garages aren't available on Sundays and we seem to manage to live with that despite these probably being more essential and less predictable than retail of any kind.
Anyway, I believe this is a matter of opinion, which everyone is entitled to, but my original question was does such a company exist, not if we thought they should. I believe I have now found one and am considering my options.

Studio117

4,250 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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fk1_6 said:
Unfortunately here in the UK we do seem be of the opinion that everything we could want or need should always be available whenever it is convenient to us rather than considering those expected to work during these times like weekends, late nights, bank holidays etc...
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Do you go for a pint or lunch on Sundays with your family? How about the shop or petrol station?

okgo

42,111 posts

227 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Studio117 said:
Do you go for a pint or lunch on Sundays with your family? How about the shop or petrol station?
Exactly, this is a totally idiotic thread.


fcuk1_6

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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As I said this isnt a thread discussing if we agree with car dealerships being open 7 days a week so I wont bother going into what I do with my Sundays off.
[quote=okgo

Exactly, this is a totally idiotic thread.


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I will not waste my energy rising to your bait by getting into an arguement with you as you are being rude and confrontational without having anything usefull to contribute towards answering the original question. Looking at other threads you have commented on you seem to spend your time trying to make yourself feel/look big by belittling others.

okgo

42,111 posts

227 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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And numerous people have pointed out the obvious as to why they're all going to open over the weekend. I've sold cars, it's st for many reasons. The main one being what we are discussing here.

Also if argue it you love cars then don't sell them, as more often than not it's not about passion for cars, it's about flogging gap insurance and roping people into pcp's they don't really want to do.

2222

295 posts

180 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Vaud said:
fk1_6 said:
It's really the "car" part of car sales that interests me / I enjoy as I am a bit of a car nut. I've since been internal and external sales in electronics but didn't/don't enjoy it nearly as much as I wasn't interested in the product. I did go into vehicle leasing briefly which was better working hours but as its over the phone and your not working with the product it really wasn't the same.

I know I'm really wanting my cake and to eat it but worth asking about. Heard an ad looking for sales execs for Motorpoint with a 5 day week but they're open on a Sunday frown
Bottom line is if you want your weekend, don't sell to consumers - sell to businesses.
Then you can earn lots of money and own a lovely car of your own

2222

295 posts

180 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Vaud said:
fk1_6 said:
It's really the "car" part of car sales that interests me / I enjoy as I am a bit of a car nut. I've since been internal and external sales in electronics but didn't/don't enjoy it nearly as much as I wasn't interested in the product. I did go into vehicle leasing briefly which was better working hours but as its over the phone and your not working with the product it really wasn't the same.

I know I'm really wanting my cake and to eat it but worth asking about. Heard an ad looking for sales execs for Motorpoint with a 5 day week but they're open on a Sunday frown
Bottom line is if you want your weekend, don't sell to consumers - sell to businesses.
Then you can earn lots of money and own a lovely car of your own

NPI

1,310 posts

153 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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okgo said:
... it's about flogging gap insurance and roping people into pcp's they don't really want to do.
Hence my earlier point.

Vaud

59,352 posts

184 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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2222 said:
Then you can earn lots of money and own a lovely car of your own
Well, quite or at least have your weekends.

For the same amount of energy it's better to not mix business and hobby/interests. I'm, in IT (broadly speaking) - and the subject topics interest me, but I don't play with the technologies I work with at home.

I love cars, but outside of a few niche jobs, I wouldn't want them to be my day job as well, there isn't enough money in it...