And yet another pro camera CC gets caught
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And he thinks cameras should all be hidden..
www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=891807
www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=891807
SheffieldToday said:
SOUTH Yorkshire's chief constable admitted today he has been hit with two speeding tickets from roadside cameras.
And his official chauffeur was also convicted of speeding at court earlier this month.
Chief Constable Med Hughes was handed three penalty points and a £60 fine after speeding past one camera in South Yorkshire.
He was caught on another occasion by a portable camera while on a trip to south Wales, he said.
Mr Hughes picked up the Sheffield ticket as he drove into work around 6am, when the roads were empty of both heavy traffic and pedestrians.
His driver was caught breaking the speed limit while driving former Chief Constable Mike Hedges and went to court.
But despite falling foul of the current speeding law himself, Mr Hughes would like to see a harsh crackdown on speeding - with all cameras both completely hidden and mobile.
Current rules dictate cameras must be highly visible, with most in South Yorkshire housed in fixed roadside boxes.
Mr Hughes insists his own errors give his radical standpoint credibility.
He said: "At least you can't call me a hypocrite. If I had my way all speed cameras would be completely hidden and mobile.
"If we are serious about speed cameras, we will have to think about that."
In addition to stricter speed enforcement he is also suggesting a total overhaul of national speed limits and the way they are signposted on the roads.
"I want to take forward the wider agenda. Signage used to identify correct speeds needs to be reviewed nationally," he said.
"I am looking to ensure motorists get more consistent signage warning when they are entering a restricted zone. There are more opportunities to remind motorists of the speed limit.
"I am interested in the broad picture of accident reduction and I think people fix too much on speed cameras. We have to change the culture of drivers in th e UK.
"Many people are still killed on the roads and speed cameras are just one way of enforcing the law.
"If I didn't have speed cameras I would be obliged to put officers at accident hotspots and that would mean fewer resources to investigate burglaries or deal with other serious crime in South Yorkshire.
"Speed cameras release officers for other activities."
"At least you can't call me a hypocrite. If I had my way all speed cameras would be completely hidden and mobile."
No but we can call you a t
t and you should have your licence removed...
He obviously flouts the speeding laws and admits in in public. Why does this man still have a license?
No but we can call you a t
t and you should have your licence removed... He obviously flouts the speeding laws and admits in in public. Why does this man still have a license?
85th percentile anyone? This CC would have been driving at the right speed for the conditions and like millions of equally law abiding people he got caught. Now rather than using his own judgment and experience to say "maybe these speed cameras aren't enforcing the law in the fairest way" or (God forbid) saying, "maybe the speeding laws and road safety legislation needs to be re-thought" he is saying "here's proof that speed cameras work because they've even managed to catch me" 
If you asked him if he was a safe diver he would say yes thereby making a mockery of the "safety" cameras.....
If you asked him if he was a safe diver he would say yes thereby making a mockery of the "safety" cameras.....
Surely as this CC was present while his driver was "commiting a crime" shouldn't he have a degree of responsiblity as well? A few mph over maybe not. Significantly faster than the other traffic, probably.
I'm sure driver was using his experience and judgement on the conditions and driving safely. So further indicates the folly of arbitary limits.
I'm sure driver was using his experience and judgement on the conditions and driving safely. So further indicates the folly of arbitary limits.
This possibly the worst example, a scamera supporter who gets caught twice yet still supports them, where's the logic? It's kinda like an anti hunt protester spouting his case holding the leash of his rottwieler with a mangled fox in its jaws, utterly ridiculous
>> Edited by Apache on Saturday 20th November 13:00
>> Edited by Apache on Saturday 20th November 13:00
He said "...Many people are still killed on the roads and speed cameras are just one way of enforcing the law..."
Note the way the words "...people killed on the roads..." and "speed cameras are a way...of enforcing the law..." are used the the same sentence in an attempt to link people being killed with the speed of their travel.
A weak and crude attempt at conditioning people's minds and a trick often used by speed camera zealots.
Watch out for it!
Note the way the words "...people killed on the roads..." and "speed cameras are a way...of enforcing the law..." are used the the same sentence in an attempt to link people being killed with the speed of their travel.
A weak and crude attempt at conditioning people's minds and a trick often used by speed camera zealots.
Watch out for it!
james_j said:
He said "...Many people are still killed on the roads and speed cameras are just one way of enforcing the law..."
Note the way the words "...people killed on the roads..." and "speed cameras are a way...of enforcing the law..." are used the the same sentence in an attempt to link people being killed with the speed of their travel.
A weak and crude attempt at conditioning people's minds and a trick often used by speed camera zealots.
Watch out for it!
You forget he is not paid to think ,only to enforce the law. The home office is now even publishing "fhm style* magazines" to bypass the local police force's communications channels. More control, if anybody can be bothered to read them.
* If the magazines are in the style of Lad's mags I wonder if they will put all the bad language and girlie pics in?
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