Double decker bus on m11 today
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a couple of years ago, maybe 18 months, i would head from Southampton up the m3 to reading each morning in rush hour, for some reason i'd always see london buses heading north, i'd say their max was probably 40, which makes sense as in London that's never achievable really.
It caused a lot of snarlups. I can only assume they were being refitted in the south, or perhaps coming out of the docks from being elsewhere. Just striked me as a silly time to travel
It caused a lot of snarlups. I can only assume they were being refitted in the south, or perhaps coming out of the docks from being elsewhere. Just striked me as a silly time to travel
Cliftonite said:
Lovely old 65 bus, but don't quite understand the connection between 35mph, and therefore never sees a motorway!Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.
Still got the pre select box BTW?

Vipers said:
Cliftonite said:
Lovely old 65 bus, but don't quite understand the connection between 35mph, and therefore never sees a motorway!Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.
Still got the pre select box BTW?
Looks like a later CVG6 - Daimatic gearbox rather than pre-selector?

Vipers said:
Lovely old 65 bus, but don't quite understand the connection between 35mph, and therefore never sees a motorway!
Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.
Still got the pre select box BTW?

It is quite legal to drive this on the motorway, and at any (attainable) speed. It would, though, slow to perhaps 20 mph on some of the steeper hills!Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.
Still got the pre select box BTW?

Other motorway users do not expect vehicles to be driving that slowly and the chance of a rear-end shunt is just too much of a risk to take. In my view, anyway.
A red bus, something like this one, was written off when someone ran into it on the M6 a year or so back. You would think a bright red bus would be fairly visible, but there you go.
And yes, this still has a Wilson mechanical pre-selector gearbox, as it had when new in March 1965 (when I first rode on it, aged 14!).
Anybody wishing to see this beauty (and me!) in action should be at the Grand Opening of Northampton's new North Gate Bus Station on 1st March!

I seem to recall that vehicles incapable of 40mph aren't allowed to use motorways. That's not the same as saying you must do 40mph to be on one, though, as obvious condition/traffic problems would make that very hard to enforce.
Can't find any evidence of the 40mph capability requirement, just vague statements about "some slow moving vehicles being prohibited".
Can't find any evidence of the 40mph capability requirement, just vague statements about "some slow moving vehicles being prohibited".
vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Ludicrous.vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Funeral directors looking for new clients, perhaps?Cliftonite said:
It is quite legal to drive this on the motorway, and at any (attainable) speed. It would, though, slow to perhaps 20 mph on some of the steeper hills!
Other motorway users do not expect vehicles to be driving that slowly and the chance of a rear-end shunt is just too much of a risk to take. In my view, anyway.
A red bus, something like this one, was written off when someone ran into it on the M6 a year or so back. You would think a bright red bus would be fairly visible, but there you go.
And yes, this still has a Wilson mechanical pre-selector gearbox, as it had when new in March 1965 (when I first rode on it, aged 14!).
Anybody wishing to see this beauty (and me!) in action should be at the Grand Opening of Northampton's new North Gate Bus Station on 1st March!

Thanks for the info, I have lost count of how many times a I have jumped on and off the platform with the bus moving, not much older than you were at that time as well.Other motorway users do not expect vehicles to be driving that slowly and the chance of a rear-end shunt is just too much of a risk to take. In my view, anyway.
A red bus, something like this one, was written off when someone ran into it on the M6 a year or so back. You would think a bright red bus would be fairly visible, but there you go.
And yes, this still has a Wilson mechanical pre-selector gearbox, as it had when new in March 1965 (when I first rode on it, aged 14!).
Anybody wishing to see this beauty (and me!) in action should be at the Grand Opening of Northampton's new North Gate Bus Station on 1st March!


vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Funnily enough, I was shocked to have the opposite scenario this week.Following a Merc hearse with a coffin in the back on the M1.
It was doing 75-80 for the few junctions I followed it for!
There is technically no minimum speed limit on motorways. There is an obscure regulation that if one cannot maintain more than x where x is 20 something mph then one needs an escort and permission.
There was a very old thread must be getting on for ten years ago now in the golden olden days when there were police patrols that they were instructed to patrol at 45-55. Whole list of explanations as to why.
So 40 mph for the bus is legal even if a bit of a rolling road block.
There was a very old thread must be getting on for ten years ago now in the golden olden days when there were police patrols that they were instructed to patrol at 45-55. Whole list of explanations as to why.
So 40 mph for the bus is legal even if a bit of a rolling road block.
v15ben said:
vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Funnily enough, I was shocked to have the opposite scenario this week.Following a Merc hearse with a coffin in the back on the M1.
It was doing 75-80 for the few junctions I followed it for!
Rules do change, so there could have been a minimum speed years gone by. (A guess).
When I passed my HGV3 in 76, HGV learners were allowed on motorways.
Also I didn't have a car licence, so in order to take my HGV3 training (I was a motorcyclist at the time), I had to apply for a car provisional, submit it and obtain an HGV provisional. So in theory then, I could have driven an HGV on the motorway not being the holder of a full car licence.
I am guessing you need to a full car licence holder these days to learn on an HGV or what they they call them these days.

When I passed my HGV3 in 76, HGV learners were allowed on motorways.
Also I didn't have a car licence, so in order to take my HGV3 training (I was a motorcyclist at the time), I had to apply for a car provisional, submit it and obtain an HGV provisional. So in theory then, I could have driven an HGV on the motorway not being the holder of a full car licence.
I am guessing you need to a full car licence holder these days to learn on an HGV or what they they call them these days.

vikingaero said:
The main problems were that the M2 stretch is a 2 lane motorway so there is simply nowhere for cars to go if the HGV driver swerves or attempts to pull out. Everyone in the cortege was utterly oblivious to the near carnage they were causing.
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