Double decker bus on m11 today
Double decker bus on m11 today
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HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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The scrotum driving the rolling road block on the M11 today was just about managing 40mph. Is this legal, and if it is, why is it? What a tool. It caused weird traffic bunching. Morons!

Vipers

33,503 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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There is no minimum speed on a motorway as far as I know.

Was it an old bus, don't think they were very fast.

Googled it and just could not believe some suggestions............




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Edited by Vipers on Thursday 20th February 17:55

Spare tyre

12,559 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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a couple of years ago, maybe 18 months, i would head from Southampton up the m3 to reading each morning in rush hour, for some reason i'd always see london buses heading north, i'd say their max was probably 40, which makes sense as in London that's never achievable really.

It caused a lot of snarlups. I can only assume they were being refitted in the south, or perhaps coming out of the docks from being elsewhere. Just striked me as a silly time to travel

Cliftonite

8,744 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Mine does 35mph maximum and therefore never sees a motorway.



HTH


Vipers

33,503 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Cliftonite said:
Mine does 35mph maximum and therefore never sees a motorway.



HTH
Lovely old 65 bus, but don't quite understand the connection between 35mph, and therefore never sees a motorway!

Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.

Still got the pre select box BTW?




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PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Cliftonite said:
Mine does 35mph maximum and therefore never sees a motorway.



HTH
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I would love a double decker. Had a 1972 Bedford coach for a while but not the same and a bus biggrin

matchmaker

9,045 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Vipers said:
Cliftonite said:
Mine does 35mph maximum and therefore never sees a motorway.



HTH
Lovely old 65 bus, but don't quite understand the connection between 35mph, and therefore never sees a motorway!

Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.

Still got the pre select box BTW?

Looks like a later CVG6 - Daimatic gearbox rather than pre-selector?




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Cliftonite

8,744 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Vipers said:
Lovely old 65 bus, but don't quite understand the connection between 35mph, and therefore never sees a motorway!

Maybe it depends how you read it, but I read it that it cannot use the motorway because it only does 35 mph, just interested.

Still got the pre select box BTW?




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It is quite legal to drive this on the motorway, and at any (attainable) speed. It would, though, slow to perhaps 20 mph on some of the steeper hills!

Other motorway users do not expect vehicles to be driving that slowly and the chance of a rear-end shunt is just too much of a risk to take. In my view, anyway.

A red bus, something like this one, was written off when someone ran into it on the M6 a year or so back. You would think a bright red bus would be fairly visible, but there you go.

And yes, this still has a Wilson mechanical pre-selector gearbox, as it had when new in March 1965 (when I first rode on it, aged 14!).

Anybody wishing to see this beauty (and me!) in action should be at the Grand Opening of Northampton's new North Gate Bus Station on 1st March!

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McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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I seem to recall that vehicles incapable of 40mph aren't allowed to use motorways. That's not the same as saying you must do 40mph to be on one, though, as obvious condition/traffic problems would make that very hard to enforce.

Can't find any evidence of the 40mph capability requirement, just vague statements about "some slow moving vehicles being prohibited".

Impasse

15,099 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Do you think he was going on a summer holiday?

J4CKO

46,836 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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I bet it was this chap,


vikingaero

13,292 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!

Cliftonite

8,744 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Ludicrous.


Cliftonite

8,744 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Funeral directors looking for new clients, perhaps?


Vipers

33,503 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Cliftonite said:
It is quite legal to drive this on the motorway, and at any (attainable) speed. It would, though, slow to perhaps 20 mph on some of the steeper hills!

Other motorway users do not expect vehicles to be driving that slowly and the chance of a rear-end shunt is just too much of a risk to take. In my view, anyway.

A red bus, something like this one, was written off when someone ran into it on the M6 a year or so back. You would think a bright red bus would be fairly visible, but there you go.

And yes, this still has a Wilson mechanical pre-selector gearbox, as it had when new in March 1965 (when I first rode on it, aged 14!).

Anybody wishing to see this beauty (and me!) in action should be at the Grand Opening of Northampton's new North Gate Bus Station on 1st March!

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Thanks for the info, I have lost count of how many times a I have jumped on and off the platform with the bus moving, not much older than you were at that time as well.




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v15ben

16,222 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Funnily enough, I was shocked to have the opposite scenario this week.
Following a Merc hearse with a coffin in the back on the M1.
It was doing 75-80 for the few junctions I followed it for!

FiF

48,759 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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There is technically no minimum speed limit on motorways. There is an obscure regulation that if one cannot maintain more than x where x is 20 something mph then one needs an escort and permission.

There was a very old thread must be getting on for ten years ago now in the golden olden days when there were police patrols that they were instructed to patrol at 45-55. Whole list of explanations as to why.

So 40 mph for the bus is legal even if a bit of a rolling road block.

vikingaero

13,292 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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v15ben said:
vikingaero said:
I drove along the M2 from Faversham to Gillingham and met a hearse and funeral cortege travelling at 25mph. It caused quite a few less than attentive HGV drivers a heart attack. Posted it on another forum where people bleated on about rights and respect. But 25mph on a motorway?!
Funnily enough, I was shocked to have the opposite scenario this week.
Following a Merc hearse with a coffin in the back on the M1.
It was doing 75-80 for the few junctions I followed it for!
The main problems were that the M2 stretch is a 2 lane motorway so there is simply nowhere for cars to go if the HGV driver swerves or attempts to pull out. Everyone in the cortege was utterly oblivious to the near carnage they were causing.

Vipers

33,503 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Rules do change, so there could have been a minimum speed years gone by. (A guess).

When I passed my HGV3 in 76, HGV learners were allowed on motorways.

Also I didn't have a car licence, so in order to take my HGV3 training (I was a motorcyclist at the time), I had to apply for a car provisional, submit it and obtain an HGV provisional. So in theory then, I could have driven an HGV on the motorway not being the holder of a full car licence.

I am guessing you need to a full car licence holder these days to learn on an HGV or what they they call them these days.




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Leptons

5,493 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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vikingaero said:
The main problems were that the M2 stretch is a 2 lane motorway so there is simply nowhere for cars to go if the HGV driver swerves or attempts to pull out. Everyone in the cortege was utterly oblivious to the near carnage they were causing.
Anyone would think their minds were elsewhere?!