Such a shame it's a cat c
Discussion
As Im looking out for another cerb, this has appeared for sale, lovely colour and work done, but a cat c ?
I've thought about a cat d as they're generally only cosmetic,
Thoughts please
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
I've thought about a cat d as they're generally only cosmetic,
Thoughts please
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Edited by dave tvr on Thursday 20th February 22:08
Cat C and D are exactly the same thing. There is absolutely no truth in Cat D implying cosmetic damage only.
Cat C and D are purely functions of the cost of repairs against the value of the car. Cat C means the repair cost exceeded a cut-off fraction of the car's value (typically 60%) whereas Cat D really just means it was close to that fraction and they 'cut their losses' incase of unseen costs.
Pouring paint stripper over a £5000 car would get it a Cat C write-off marker.
Cat C and D are purely functions of the cost of repairs against the value of the car. Cat C means the repair cost exceeded a cut-off fraction of the car's value (typically 60%) whereas Cat D really just means it was close to that fraction and they 'cut their losses' incase of unseen costs.
Pouring paint stripper over a £5000 car would get it a Cat C write-off marker.
It's priced a bit high IMO for a cat c. it's a nice looking car but you'll always struggle to sell for a decent price. you can find a 4.2 at that price that isn't a cat c and has lower miles. I don't think it looks good value unless the sell on was completely irrelevant to you. 4.0 in Channel Islands looks a better bet as it's still standard. if your looking at tvr as an investment that is.
Owned two cat D TVR's now never bothers me as long as I knew the history and the car is straight. People always go on about residual values, bearing in mind you buy cheap you sell cheap, OK it might make the market slightly smaller but my chimaera sold on pretty quickly the last few times when it left me and the next two owners.
Not a issue with the cerb as I bought it to keep.
My view is it is probably better condition that a Cerb in poor state of maintenance, with a rotton chassis that is non cat car!
Not a issue with the cerb as I bought it to keep.
My view is it is probably better condition that a Cerb in poor state of maintenance, with a rotton chassis that is non cat car!
Edited by scotty_d on Friday 21st February 08:30
As Jamie said the cat d and cat c cars are down to percentages of repair cost, however cat c cars are more likely to have suffered from core damage to either structural damage, so chassis likely to have been damaged, engine etc. Most flood damaged cars are now a Cat C, I was looking at an Alfa GT the other week, had a large dent to front wing, headlamp broken and front bumper required repainting and was registered as a Cat C.
Insurance companies normally value them at between 10-20% below book price if you were to make a claim.
Resale is always going to be more difficult due to the stigma and a Cat C will be stated on the log book that is has had a VIC check due to having substantial accident damage.
I think there are other cars out there that are a better deal and long term investment.
Insurance companies normally value them at between 10-20% below book price if you were to make a claim.
Resale is always going to be more difficult due to the stigma and a Cat C will be stated on the log book that is has had a VIC check due to having substantial accident damage.
I think there are other cars out there that are a better deal and long term investment.
I am with ukkid35, drive it and have a good look over it as on the surface it looks like a lovely example at a fair price for a good condition Cerbera.
It really does not take much for a TVR to get a cat C or D marker put against it, they are not mainstream cars and mainstream insurers do not understand the costs of repair and so tend to cut their losses and run for the hills.
It really does not take much for a TVR to get a cat C or D marker put against it, they are not mainstream cars and mainstream insurers do not understand the costs of repair and so tend to cut their losses and run for the hills.
Looks a bit of a dog to me. Take a look at the state of the rear bumper/right exhaust area ( looks badly cracked and badly finished), also look at the lines along the rear bumper. Don't look straight at all. To think I considered selling mine last year for 15k I'd now be feeling robbed. So glad I've kept it.
chibbard said:
Looks a bit of a dog to me. Take a look at the state of the rear bumper/right exhaust area ( looks badly cracked and badly finished), also look at the lines along the rear bumper. Don't look straight at all. To think I considered selling mine last year for 15k I'd now be feeling robbed. So glad I've kept it.
Very well spotted, the bumper round the left exhaust also looks like it needs work too.
funbobby said:
any thoughts on the blue one at phill phendenos? looks nice but has had a chassis change so sounds like a big accident. have had a car off him before with no probs.
Look closely at the chassis pictures. Just my observation, but it looks like everything has been sprayed white - bolt heads, gaitors et all. Also looks like oxidation coming up from under the white paint - looks orange/rust colour to me. That is not to say this is not a legit car, and my observations may be wrong. Make your own mind up on that!
totalpetrolhead said:
Look closely at the chassis pictures. Just my observation, but it looks like everything has been sprayed white - bolt heads, gaitors et all. Also looks like oxidation coming up from under the white paint - looks orange/rust colour to me.
That is not to say this is not a legit car, and my observations may be wrong. Make your own mind up on that!
Yes I nocticed the white paint everywhere, not sure what's that's all about , also this car was on eBay about 3 weeks ago from a private seller bids starting at £8000, now it's up for £15000?.That is not to say this is not a legit car, and my observations may be wrong. Make your own mind up on that!
Back to the white cerb, I agree with most comments here, and good spotting on the cracks/bad paint at the back.
The cat status doesn't bother me either if it's been repaired properly, it's another problem to sort out/ look into before you buy, it would be the re- sell that would be my consern, I would love to keep it forever then it's not a problem , but circumstances change.
I think I'll give the seller of the blue speed six £14995 another call, his spec was good, just a noise from the gearbox or diff to question him on
Thanks all for you're input, valuable as always .
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