Kumho Ecsta V70A

[NTEL]

Do any of you chaps use the Kumho list 1B tyres? If so, how do you rate them against, 888's and such like? If I decide to go with them I'll be using them to do 40 minute races in a Tuscan..

Thanks in advance

[djroadboy]

They are probably the best 1b tyre in terms of outright dry grip but are completely useless in damp/wet conditions. Not sure Medium (K60) compounds would last 40 minutes on a Tuscan so you may have to experiment with Medium and Hard compounds.

Dan

[NTEL]

Thanks for that Dan. I, too, am completely useless in damp / wet conditions.....

[jesfirth]

I have used R888's since 2005 for sprinting and really like them. I tried medium v60's in 2012 and hated them. They just didn't work for me, bugger all grip and not predictable but it was cold in March so I ended up selling them at a huge loss and buying another set of 888's. Quite a few sprinters use them to good effect especially on warm days. The sprinters mostly use super sorts and they turn into chewing gum very quickly, perhaps only a couple of hard laps before they go off. You should fare better in a tuscan though cos it's 100kg lighter than a griff.

[djroadboy]

NTEL said:

Thanks for that Dan. I, too, am completely useless in damp / wet conditions.....

Me too!

[FerrariV8]

We are being offerred the V70 Hard or the Pirelli Pzero Rosso for our series, The P zero is not very predicatable but is probably a better wet tyre - now i'm not so sure which is the better dry tyre?

T.

[NTEL]

Well........since 2008 I've had about 65 consecutive grid starts. In all that lot I reckon I've had only 6 wet races, so I reckon I'll give the Kumhos a go. I always back right off in a wet race anyway 'cos I don't want to trash my car. Last year at Silverstone I tried to race using 12 year old Dunlop wets which were harder than the tarmac they were running on!!!!! The Kumhos can't be any worse than that!!!!!

[FerrariV8]

Cheers, I think the Kumho will be considerably quicker in the dry, I just don't know wheter to get a set of rims with the P zero's on for very wet races? tough call - but then if its a close call then there probably nothing in it.

T.

[velocemitch]

We sometimes use those V 70's on our road rally car and it's surprising just how well they do grip In the wet. Though deep standing water is a problem for them. we don't put much power through the to be fair, but the road surfaces are not what you might call smooth either!.

[gixermark]

You can get the kumho's cut for 'wet' tyre like tread.... I may be wrong... But I think blackpool tyres were a kumho dealer and did this....

I've used them... IF you match the correct compound for the right day..... They are great, problem is... You really need 2-3 compounds to cover all eventualities.. Plus 'wets'

888s may not offer the ultimate grip... Bit are consistent.. And not as fickle imho

[FerrariV8]

We cannot tamper with them, we are just being offered the HARD tyre or the P zero Rosso road tyre. I am presuming that the Kumho will be quicker in the dry and damp, I think some testing is required.

T.

[velocemitch]

From the experience I have with those I reckon they would eat a P-Zero alive. Possibly even in mildly wet conditions too. Not full wet with standing water though.

[NTEL]

OK, thanks for all your input chaps. Given all the comments I've ordered a set of Kumhos in the hard compound hoping they will last well in a 40 minute race against various marques running a mixture of mainly 888's and Yokos.

[woof]

NTEL said:

OK, thanks for all your input chaps. Given all the comments I've ordered a set of Kumhos in the hard compound hoping they will last well in a 40 minute race against various marques running a mixture of mainly 888's and Yokos.

Ru running in the CSCC Modern Classics ?

[FerrariV8]

Also, Thank you to everyone and sorry for hijacking the thread a little, I will be taking delivery of my hard compound tyres within the next two weeks. I'll probably not use the P zero's again.

T.

[NTEL]

FerrariV8 said:

Also, Thank you to everyone and sorry for hijacking the thread a little, I will be taking delivery of my hard compound tyres within the next two weeks. I'll probably not use the P zero's again.

T.

Can I recommend a company called first tyre plus near Manchester for your Kumhos? Great service, price, and Ivor is a great guy and a prolific racer http://www.firsttyreplusmobile.co.uk/contactus.htm...

[NTEL]

woof said:

NTEL said:

OK, thanks for all your input chaps. Given all the comments I've ordered a set of Kumhos in the hard compound hoping they will last well in a 40 minute race against various marques running a mixture of mainly 888's and Yokos.

Ru running in the CSCC Modern Classics ?

Doing a couple of future classic with the CSCC. Silverstone and Oulton hopefully. Donington with DDMC and Rockingham, Angelsey, and Oulton with the Tuscan Challenge. Bit of a mixed bag for a change

[Graham]

NTEL said:

Can I recommend a company called first tyre plus near Manchester for your Kumhos? Great service, price, and Ivor is a great guy and a prolific racer http://www.firsttyreplusmobile.co.uk/contactus.htm...

dave what size did you go for

[NTEL]

Graham said:

NTEL said:

Can I recommend a company called first tyre plus near Manchester for your Kumhos? Great service, price, and Ivor is a great guy and a prolific racer http://www.firsttyreplusmobile.co.uk/contactus.htm...

dave what size did you go for

Ended up with 265 / 35 /18. Nearest I could find to Dunlop 250 / 640 / 18