Scottish Independence - speeding point on UK licence?
Discussion
Not sure if this has been discussed before, but I can't find anything by searching.
If Scotland vote yes and leave the UK, will speeding points still apply to UK licences or will it be the same as the IOM where you can be banned/fined but no points?
Could Scotland become a giant Nurburgring for the English?
If Scotland vote yes and leave the UK, will speeding points still apply to UK licences or will it be the same as the IOM where you can be banned/fined but no points?
Could Scotland become a giant Nurburgring for the English?
I would imagine Electric cars would be compulsory give our esteemed leaders obsession with green energy and with his already stated intention that if the british goverment raise the speed limit to 80mph it want be happening in Scotland, speeding will probably become a capital offence.
Strange how the idea of separate currencies with the same name has made the headlines, but there's no mention of driving licences. If both countries are separate entities, then will licence issuers split and will then courts in Scotland have any powers over English licence holders and vice versa. Another interesting point.
FRA53R said:
That would mean it would work both ways, and we could bomb around the M25 ring.... wait, never mind. Funny though of all the many many things Alex Salmond hasn't addressed that I bang on about, this one never occured to me.
Salmond hasn't thought through what currency to use and how to be a member of the EU so 'trivial' things like driving licences are probably one of the things they haven't even thought of yet, let alone have plans for.Who me said:
Strange how the idea of separate currencies with the same name has made the headlines, but there's no mention of driving licences. If both countries are separate entities, then will licence issuers split and will then courts in Scotland have any powers over English licence holders and vice versa. Another interesting point.
If I can speed in Scotland and not get points I'm all for independence! Plus I presume petrol will be cheap when their currency fails!Edited by southpaw on Saturday 22 February 21:31
imagineifyeswill said:
These are all points which need to be considered and which we hear nothing about. In my opinion Alex Salmond in his craving for power is putting the cart before the horse and has never thought about half these points.
This is a vote for a independence not Alex Salmond...... thought everyone new this by now. Anyway, I think when we get independence I'll start up a motorist pressure group with a number of aims including Encourage safe driving by increasing standards - e.g. compulsory retest every 10 years
Relax the penalties for speeding
Enact specific cycling laws, to make (cycling safer of course) e.g. Make cyclists cycle single file unless on dedicated cycle lanes, make cyclists undertake a competency test - bring all cycle race events strictly under the highway code.
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I can't believe anyone would think that details like driving licence validity should sway their decision on how to vote on whether the country should be independent.
I'll stick my neck out and predict that, in the event of a YES vote, day to day life will continue as normal, certainly for a good period of time while negotiations take place.
Currently, the courts of the land - whether English or Scottish - have jurisdiction over offences committed in their territory regardless of the nationality of the perpetrator and that won't change. What MIGHT change is whether some offences are prosecuted and how they are punished. There are already moves afoot to make points won in another EC country applicable in the driver's home country. Bear in mind that, at present, if a traffic cop pulls you over on the "wrong" side of the border and you can't produce your licence there and then, you still have to present it to your local police station within 7 days but you do not have the option to take a fixed penalty but will have to have the case heard in court.
And can EVERYONE please remember that we AREN'T voting to say whether we like a particular politician or party? The nae-sayers would like to portray the referendum as a popularity contest for Alex Salmond but that is ust not true. We are voting to say whether we believe Scotland should be an independent country. Once that decision has been made we will elect a government to run tings, either as a devolved parliament or as an independent country.
So, to anyone who has a vote in the referendum I'd like to say this - vote YES!
I'll stick my neck out and predict that, in the event of a YES vote, day to day life will continue as normal, certainly for a good period of time while negotiations take place.
Currently, the courts of the land - whether English or Scottish - have jurisdiction over offences committed in their territory regardless of the nationality of the perpetrator and that won't change. What MIGHT change is whether some offences are prosecuted and how they are punished. There are already moves afoot to make points won in another EC country applicable in the driver's home country. Bear in mind that, at present, if a traffic cop pulls you over on the "wrong" side of the border and you can't produce your licence there and then, you still have to present it to your local police station within 7 days but you do not have the option to take a fixed penalty but will have to have the case heard in court.
And can EVERYONE please remember that we AREN'T voting to say whether we like a particular politician or party? The nae-sayers would like to portray the referendum as a popularity contest for Alex Salmond but that is ust not true. We are voting to say whether we believe Scotland should be an independent country. Once that decision has been made we will elect a government to run tings, either as a devolved parliament or as an independent country.
So, to anyone who has a vote in the referendum I'd like to say this - vote YES!
DuckDuck said:
This is a vote for a independence not Alex Salmond.
Not the way he has it lined up, there's a declared timetable that would see him oversee all the independence negotiations and making it into leading a Scottish government without having to have the nuisance of an election along the way. Siscar said:
Not the way he has it lined up, there's a declared timetable that would see him oversee all the independence negotiations and making it into leading a Scottish government without having to have the nuisance of an election along the way.
He is the leader of a democratically elected party so the Scottish government will oversee the transition. Think yo are caught in all the NO hypeThe unionists held power here for years and could have called the referendum at any time during their term of office - but chose not to. You surely can't seriously complain that the party who campaigned on a mandate to hold an independence referendum are now holding one and, if the vote is YES, that the government of the day will lead the negotiations?
If that is the case, I'd like to complain about any Lib Dem involvement from the UK side because they were certainly not elected on either side of the border.
If that is the case, I'd like to complain about any Lib Dem involvement from the UK side because they were certainly not elected on either side of the border.
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