I don`t want a fast car
I don`t want a fast car
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bigkeeko

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1,370 posts

172 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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I think I`ve decided tonight. I don`t want another very quick car. I`ve read a few threads on here recently and on other forums that have got me thinking. Seriously, how fast a car do you need? Dick waving and $hitty pub talk about 0-60 times and some exaggerated theoretical top speed with your `mods`, It`s needless really for 99% of people. Nice to know it`s there (back to the dick waving) but is it essential? I`ve continually read "yeah but the so and so will be quicker with a remap". Along the lines of `the other car is slower so it`s crap` kinda mentality. Some of the best cars I`ve owned and enjoyed driving the most were not the fastest. Accord Type R and an E30 BMW 325 sport for example.

I was all ready to splash out on something fast to make faster. My budget was/is £15k and tonight I`ve kinda woke up. I read that some guy prefers to drive his Golf Gti more than his M6 as it,s more fun. Reason being, opening the taps on an M6 on a public road (60mph limit generally) means cheerio license and possibly job.

My last car was 5.1 to 60 and 168 out of the box. Jesus! You see the problem here? I can`t get away from it! I`m now looking at cars with character that will offer enjoyment and cost less.

Alfa 147 GTA, Mondeo ST220, Golf R32, BMW 330. I fancy a six pot. I know when I buy one someone will mention boost or fuel economy, a remapped something maybe even diesel. They`re missing the point.

I know I`m going against the grain so feel free to slaughter me car forum style...




foxmeister

125 posts

155 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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I know what you mean.

I still like my fast cars etc, but now consider spending money a bit more wisely rather than lump it all into the best car i could afford. I like having a nice home stereo/TV, spending a bit on the kids etc.

As it stands, i usually picked the top of the range model due to it having better equipment, looks etc, just a bonus that it usually is the fastest also.

Having picked up a Mondeo ST220 about a year ago as an itchy scratch scenario, i can heartily recommend one, much better can than i ever imagined it to be. Meant as a short stop gap to tide me over, but cant see me swapping it anytime soon.

joesnow

1,533 posts

256 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Totally agree, sometimes less is more.
For the roads I like to drive, a fast car means committing to blind bends and breaking the speed limit to get the car's dynamics working.
I went from an S2000 and an E36 M3 Evo to a 1960s Alfa. I can drive at 8/10 whilst remaining reasonably under the radar - I love it.

fjord

2,143 posts

166 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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When i get stuck behind some bumpkin driving at 25mph in a 40mph zone, i crave my st220 again. As a whole, the car was st, but the engine and power delivery were good.

Instead i have to time overtakes to perfection now or it'll all go wrong, as a result of the 320d being totally st.

Riknos

4,701 posts

233 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Another reason why MX-5s are so popular on here...

...it's not about how fast you can go, it's about how much fun you can have, whilst still keeping your license.

skyrover

12,700 posts

233 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Try sone offroading. Different kind of fun and no danger of speeding hehe

Test driver

348 posts

153 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Golf r32 as you mentioned is a fantastic motor IMO; not slow but no record breaker. If you want fun, look at the caterham offerings for a track/summer toy.

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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I feel the same OP, one of the reasons I sold the Elise and why I'm now looking to buy a Caterham for trackdays/racing.

I often yearn for something faster on the road but for 99% of the time my Volvo is just fine!

ToothbrushMan

1,772 posts

154 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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You make a good point in as much as it does become tiring to always get obsessed about out and out fugures and performance.
You could have a blistering quick car on smooth flat tarmac but get left for dead by something with 25 50 75% of the power if it handles or has better composure. Good brakes and/or abas rarely get a mention too and they can make up for a power deficit if the feel and modulation are perfect.......

unpc

2,998 posts

242 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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I quite agree. I went from 400bhp to 200 and I don't miss it. My current D3 is more than fast enough for my needs. Some of the best cars I've had have not been that quick.

Truckosaurus

13,258 posts

313 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Also, you mention Accord Type-R, E30 325i and Golf GTi, they are compared to most other cars Fast Cars and like you suggest probably the perfect amount of power and fun for a daily driver road car.

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

179 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Best car I've ever had is a 1.1 fiat seicento.
Not all about 0-60 and a million bhp.
Nuff said.
smile

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

169 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Going against the grain here - but I still really enjoy powerful cars. How much I'm enjoying myself is more to do with how the overall car makes me feel though - the way it looks, sounds, smells and feels, rather that the on-paper figures or its monetary value. I love the sensation of hard acceleration. I also like contrast though - I would never want to try to own one car to do everything for me. I'd very quickly consider it the worst of all worlds.

Vulgar LS2

1,785 posts

212 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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I see where your coming from, My Monaro should be my favourite car but the old Volvo Amazon just makes me smile so much smile

Grandpad58

12,549 posts

210 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Truckosaurus said:
Also, you mention Accord Type-R, E30 325i and Golf GTi, they are compared to most other cars Fast Cars and like you suggest probably the perfect amount of power and fun for a daily driver road car.
This I agree with ,enough power to get out of trouble and keep under NSL.
150-200 ponies are enough IMO.

calibrax

4,788 posts

240 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Did you see Top Gear last night? that £17k Caterham 160 with the skinny tyres looked fun even though it was very low powered.

LuS1fer

43,511 posts

274 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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A car with huge power has a lot more compromises. My Mustang has over 460hp but the fact is that if I drove it every day, I would quickly get used to the power and think it needed more.

My daily is an 07 Fiesta ST. The 150hp is more than enough, it's cheap to run, it handles well, it's small enough to park anywhere and I can just about fit in the odd fence post if needed. It's about ideal for what I need as opposed to want but remains sporty.

If I were to quibble, better noise insulation, a bit more luxury and a better stereo wouldn't go amiss.

Davey S2

13,394 posts

283 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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calibrax said:
Did you see Top Gear last night? that £17k Caterham 160 with the skinny tyres looked fun even though it was very low powered.
Just what I was going to post. For fun on the road it's no contest.

g7jhp

7,034 posts

267 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Depends on your needs.

The best fun I've had was a Caterham 7, but it was restricted by the weather.

A Golf GTI Mk5 and a Caterham would be a good pairing circa £20-25k.

Lightweight always makes for fun!

Lordbenny

8,752 posts

248 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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I had a 400bhp Ford Focus but I preferred my 85bhp Citroen Ax GT. I have a 185bhp Westfield at the moment but don't crave for more power. I recently infact posted a topic on me wanting something less speedy.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...