Non transferable car tax!
Discussion
Updated today on the gov site regarding not having to display a tax disc, it also includes this gem 
When selling a vehicle to a new vehicle keeper, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferable. Vehicle tax will end when a vehicle is sold and the new keeper will need to get the vehicle taxed immediately before the vehicle can be used.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-cha...
No mention of whether the seller can cash in any remaining tax?
When selling a vehicle to a new vehicle keeper, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferable. Vehicle tax will end when a vehicle is sold and the new keeper will need to get the vehicle taxed immediately before the vehicle can be used.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-cha...
No mention of whether the seller can cash in any remaining tax?
I dont understand the reasoning behind this.
It is a vehicle tax (or duty) not an owner or user tax, so it makes sense it should be able to stay with the vehicle.
It will make private sales of vehicles difficult as effectively when you hand over the money and sign the relevant parts of the V5, the ownership changes and so the car is not taxed.
Why can legislation not make things easier rather than more difficult ?
It is a vehicle tax (or duty) not an owner or user tax, so it makes sense it should be able to stay with the vehicle.
It will make private sales of vehicles difficult as effectively when you hand over the money and sign the relevant parts of the V5, the ownership changes and so the car is not taxed.
Why can legislation not make things easier rather than more difficult ?
Another waste of time and money.
The remaining tax will have to be claimed back then new tax administered. Why? Just leave it as it is.
On a side note this is the first I've heard of this and it should be made more widely known to the general public otherwise hundreds of innocent people will be caught out by this.
The remaining tax will have to be claimed back then new tax administered. Why? Just leave it as it is.
On a side note this is the first I've heard of this and it should be made more widely known to the general public otherwise hundreds of innocent people will be caught out by this.
Just seen this, reading it so if your buying a second hand car now you will need internet access/nearby post office or to visit the car twice (once to view and pay deposit, then go away pay for tax from agreed date, then go back and get car) which I've only ever done with dealerships as I don't trust anyone enough to give them cash as a deposit to collect at a later date for a private purchase!
Stupid idea.
Stupid idea.
Fartgalen said:
At the moment you can't tax a car online as a new owner. I hope they've fixed that !
It says you will be able to use the new keeper slip online or in a post office to tax it.But before that, you've got to insure it!
What a massive headache its going to make things.
Are they trying to put people off buying 2nd hand older cars?
mblade123 said:
On a side note this is the first I've heard of this and it should be made more widely known to the general public otherwise hundreds of innocent people will be caught out by this.
Was a fair bit of coverage on the news last year and few articles here on PH too.I don't think it'll be that much of an issue. If you buy a car and it has a physical disk in the window you're covered. If you buy a car without tax you'll undoubtedly become aware of the new process.
I would think this is simply a stealth tax increase designed to end the war on the motorist - bad joke. Change car mid month and each party has to pay the tax for a whole month when they have only had use of the vehicle for part of said month. Thus treasury effectively gets paid twice. One could almost imagine Gordon Brown were still in No11.
It has the additional effect in theory, once it becomes more widely known, of getting people to act a bit more promptly in notifying change of ownership to that not fit for purpose organisation the DVLA.
Unintended consequences could be that law abiding citizens are further inconvenienced and have to pay more money, whereas the problem children will just not notify until the existing tax is due.
It has the additional effect in theory, once it becomes more widely known, of getting people to act a bit more promptly in notifying change of ownership to that not fit for purpose organisation the DVLA.
Unintended consequences could be that law abiding citizens are further inconvenienced and have to pay more money, whereas the problem children will just not notify until the existing tax is due.
Surely if it's all going electronic, then there's no reason why tax can only begin from the start of the month, as it did with paper discs (thus saving them printing separate discs for every day of the month?). It should start on the day you buy it and be valid for the full six or twelve months after that?
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