Who has right of way here?
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I've always assumed it was the left hand lane, as that's the normal driving position. And normally at that point folk just merge in turn.
But tonight I was in the left hand land , had already allowed a car to merge in front of me, when another car pushed its way in and proceeded to give me the fingers
But tonight I was in the left hand land , had already allowed a car to merge in front of me, when another car pushed its way in and proceeded to give me the fingers
It's interesting you should ask this as it's something I've been thinking about myself.
Regarding right of way, I see it as the same as any other situation where two lanes merge. Neither has priority.
From a locical point of view though, I always choose the right hand lane. My reasining is that I'd have to deviate (arguably twice) if I chose the left lane.
If I get to the merge point and there's someone on the left of me, I'll either let them in or squirt in front of them depending on the conditions and situation at the time.
Does that make sense or have I misunderstood the question?
Regarding right of way, I see it as the same as any other situation where two lanes merge. Neither has priority.
From a locical point of view though, I always choose the right hand lane. My reasining is that I'd have to deviate (arguably twice) if I chose the left lane.
If I get to the merge point and there's someone on the left of me, I'll either let them in or squirt in front of them depending on the conditions and situation at the time.
Does that make sense or have I misunderstood the question?
Live right next to that, always wondered the same, stay in the right line as majority of prople in the left lane are turning left. Not many folk turning right from the right lane.
When merging I always try to let folk in where possible, or squeeze forward to let them in behind. You do always get the one pleb that wants in no matter what though.
When merging I always try to let folk in where possible, or squeeze forward to let them in behind. You do always get the one pleb that wants in no matter what though.
For those reading this who are not familiar with the area, it may be useful to note that the length of the dual section (from lights to merge point) is some 75m. That's all.
For me, the very existence of the dual section causes the confusion and problems.
Is there a left filter from Mounthooly Way on to King Street? If so, maybe that was the thinking behind it. Other than that, I think it's pretty pointless.
For me, the very existence of the dual section causes the confusion and problems.
Is there a left filter from Mounthooly Way on to King Street? If so, maybe that was the thinking behind it. Other than that, I think it's pretty pointless.
Edited by Kiltie on Friday 28th February 10:50
I am no expert, but saw this on another thread :
"Right of Way" is not a principle recognised by any UK traffic law or regulation (it is more appropriate to rambling over the countryside). This phrase is often used when "priority" is meant. In the UK, priority is indicated by specific signs or road markings. An arrow directing lanes to merge does not offer any priority; each vehicle is expected to merge in turn much like the teeth of a zip.
The fundamental rule applicable to motorists in the UK (as exemplified by the Highway Code) is "Give Way" and failure to do so "falls below the standard expected of a reasonable and competent driver" - aka the offence of "driving without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road".
Thus if you attempt to block a vehicle ahead of you from merging you commit an offence. Likewise, a driver attempting to push ahead and force a way in commits an offence. If there is a danger of injury or serious damage then the offence is escalated to that of Dangerous Driving.
If a collision does occur the difficulty in assigning blame may be in trying to differentiate between the two actions listed above but that is the job of the insurance providers.
"Right of Way" is not a principle recognised by any UK traffic law or regulation (it is more appropriate to rambling over the countryside). This phrase is often used when "priority" is meant. In the UK, priority is indicated by specific signs or road markings. An arrow directing lanes to merge does not offer any priority; each vehicle is expected to merge in turn much like the teeth of a zip.
The fundamental rule applicable to motorists in the UK (as exemplified by the Highway Code) is "Give Way" and failure to do so "falls below the standard expected of a reasonable and competent driver" - aka the offence of "driving without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road".
Thus if you attempt to block a vehicle ahead of you from merging you commit an offence. Likewise, a driver attempting to push ahead and force a way in commits an offence. If there is a danger of injury or serious damage then the offence is escalated to that of Dangerous Driving.
If a collision does occur the difficulty in assigning blame may be in trying to differentiate between the two actions listed above but that is the job of the insurance providers.
This takes me back - It doesn't really matter who has right of way after the junction if you've just whacked into the back of a quarry truck on the approach… Being outside the bus garage, the road always used to be absolutely layered in diesel and, when said truck stopped at the lights on its airbrakes, my poor old Royal Enfield 250 just locked up everything (the only time its brakes ever managed to lock) and sailed majestically on, headlight straight into his huge tow ball (fnar). As the ammeter and ignition switch sailed over my shoulder and the tinkling of disintegrating lamp glass faded away, he simply drove off, not realising that anything had happened, whilst I just sat there in complete tit mode. 1978.
paulqv said:
Where does it say that a vehicle being overtaken has right of way? That doesn't make sense? Couldn't see it in the code
167 DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users.In this case I think the sub rule: 'where the road narrows' and 'when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down' applies
Edited by DCL on Sunday 2nd March 19:04
DCL said:
paulqv said:
Where does it say that a vehicle being overtaken has right of way? That doesn't make sense? Couldn't see it in the code
167 DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users.In this case I think the sub rule: 'where the road narrows' and 'when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down' applies
Edited by DCL on Sunday 2nd March 19:04
Whoever gets the cleanest start there usually. At most times of day there is no queue to join beyond the junction, so it's literally a simple dragrace to see whoever is in front when the lanes merge.
In practise, it needs a bit of common sense and courtesy, but there are many tossers about incapable of comprehending an importance which equals their own.
In practise, it needs a bit of common sense and courtesy, but there are many tossers about incapable of comprehending an importance which equals their own.
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