Which on-board camera for Track Days
Which on-board camera for Track Days
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midgetmagoo

Original Poster:

375 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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I'm looking to buy an onboard camera for track days etc.

What would I need and whats the ideal camera?

Thanks in advance.

dazren

22,612 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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Personally I'd look at getting a camera with "image stablisation" and an input for a "bullet cam". Sorry don't know which models have these features though.

DAZ

shadytree

8,291 posts

269 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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Bullet camera from HERE

The quality is excellent, some vids using the bullet on my profile page.

Camera supports from HERE

Can attach the bullet to the SM2 for externally pictures. Roof cam and wheel cam on my vids, used the bullet with the SM2.




As Daz says, get a Camera with AV in and image stabaliser.
I found the SONY DCR-HC30 fits the bill. Very happy with it. Cheapest place was Amazon

>> Edited by shadytree on Monday 22 November 09:33

whittaker52

1,031 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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Amanda, if you want to give me a shout, id be more than willing to let you have a try of the bullet cam system that i run. I was running it on saturday and the quality was fantastic!

I run a canon MV650i digital video camera which has av in mated to an rf concepts bullet camera.

midgetmagoo

Original Poster:

375 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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whittaker52 said:
Amanda, if you want to give me a shout, id be more than willing to let you have a try of the bullet cam system that i run. I was running it on saturday and the quality was fantastic!

I run a canon MV650i digital video camera which has av in mated to an rf concepts bullet camera.


Cheers Oliver....I might have to take you up on that.

whittaker52

1,031 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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midgetmagoo said:

Cheers Oliver....I might have to take you up on that.


no problem, i meant to show you the video footage on saturday! but i will get it edited up tonight and try and get a copy online.

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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For reference, a Sony DCR100 with an RF Concepts bullet cam produced this (warning 26MB file, best to right-click and save locally before viewing):
www.winisp.net/don1/silverstone/Silverstone_Lap.wmv

This is optimised for the web - the original AVI has bigger and better definition - but even so I expect it's good enough for most people.

I don't know if this camera has image stabilisation or not (I borrowed the whole kit off a friend). If the camera is securely mounted I don't know that it's really necessary.

Don

>> Edited by Ffirg 005 on Monday 22 November 15:26

murph7355

40,747 posts

276 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Image stabilisation doesn't work through the AV input, only through the onboard lens.

But you don't need it with a bullet cam, just a half decent mount.

This potentially reduces the cost of your set up. I believe mini-DV cameras with AV in start at about 3-400 quid. Ones with IS tend to be more pricey.

chimburt

751 posts

279 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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bought a cannon mv700i from their refurb outlet on ebay. all wrapped up and looked like new, just over 200quid, but have a good look around at market prices before shopping with ebay.
any of the cannon range with the 'i' has the AV in, i believe.
seems like a nice bit of kit.

Dibble

13,213 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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'Scuse my ignorance, but will one of those bullet cam thingies let me use Mrs Dibble's sony PC109 camcorder (with yellow AV input hole) as a video recorder in my backpack, with the camera left outside, on the ski trip?

GetCarter

30,544 posts

299 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Dibble said:
'Scuse my ignorance, but will one of those bullet cam thingies let me use Mrs Dibble's sony PC109 camcorder (with yellow AV input hole) as a video recorder in my backpack, with the camera left outside, on the ski trip?


yep

Gavstar

1,305 posts

260 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Will they work with Sony DCR-HC20E Digital Camcorder? I can't tell from the spec sheet if it has the right connection or not.

GetCarter

30,544 posts

299 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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It needs to have AV IN - that's a yellow hole on the camera... but even then that 'could' be just AV out. If your manual says you can record onto the camcorder from a TV or VCR via the AV socket... it will support a bullet cam. (Make sure also that both bulet cam you buy and your camera are PAL not NTSC)

The thing to do is phone up RF Concepts (who supply the bullet cam) - as memory serves they have a list of cameras that will work.

RF site : www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm

Steve

>> Edited by GetCarter on Monday 29th November 15:17

Gavstar

1,305 posts

260 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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GetCarter said:
It needs to have AV IN - that's a yellow hole on the camera... but even then that 'could' be just AV out. If your manual says you can record onto the camcorder from a TV or VCR via the AV socket... it will support a bullet cam. (Make sure also that both bulet cam you buy and your camera are PAL not NTSC)

The thing to do is phone up RF Concepts (who supply the bullet cam) - as memory serves they have a list of cameras that will work.

RF site : www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm

Steve

>> Edited by GetCarter on Monday 29th November 15:17

Don't think I have one of those but I'll check later, cheers. I guess that's the only real way to get a decent picture when filming inside the car?

GetCarter

30,544 posts

299 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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No... you can get great pics from inside the car with any cam... you need the right mount though (see Shady Tree's link above) - bullet just lets you get 'outside and dirty' - but you can get pretty bloody dirty without a bullet:

Here is a 4 mb WMV (from a regular cam lens) following my 'old' M3 round Donington... in the VERY wet - (hats off to Rob Grigsby for keeping his Seven on the grey stuff - he's such a hero)

www.stevecarter.com/m3-dony-wet.wmv

Steve


>> Edited by GetCarter on Monday 29th November 19:32