Insurance woes
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danjama

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5,728 posts

171 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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I recently move house. Didn't give a second thought of how it might affect insurance prices, as I was just moving from one crappy postcode to another. But after doing a bit of research into changing my car, it seems to be having a huge affect on quotes from comparison websites. Upon further research my new postcode seems to be awful - im told i must refer to insurers over the phone.

Please tell me that I will get reasonable quotes when I speak to somebody frown

For those interested, ive moved from RM10 to E7.

As an example, quote on a Honda Prelude 2.2 Motegi:

New postcode - £3,800!!!!
Old postcode - £1,100

WT actual F? How does anybody afford to drive around here???

muffinmenace

1,100 posts

217 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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danjama

Original Poster:

5,728 posts

171 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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muffinmenace said:
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Is it ironic that I moved here to half the distance of my cycle to work?

danjama

Original Poster:

5,728 posts

171 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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Bump. Any insurance gurus about?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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danjama said:
Bump. Any insurance gurus about?
he'll be along shortly...

dacouch

1,172 posts

158 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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Monty Python said:
Those are Aviva's rating area for motorbike Insurance from about seven years ago, they bore little relation to car insurance then and even less now

littleredrooster

6,376 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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dacouch said:
Those are Aviva's rating area for motorbike Insurance from about seven years ago, they bore little relation to car insurance then and even less now
Any idea where correct, or more up-to-date info can be found?

dacouch

1,172 posts

158 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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littleredrooster said:
Any idea where correct, or more up-to-date info can be found?
Each Insurer builds their own post code rating structure drawn from their own claim statistics.

The information is commercially sensitive so Insurers don't publish it.

If they did publish their post code rating areas people would also accuse them of price fixing

danjama

Original Poster:

5,728 posts

171 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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So, is there any realistic chance that my quotes will drop significantly when I call them up?

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

194 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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danjama said:
So, is there any realistic chance that my quotes will drop significantly when I call them up?
You know there is a faster way to find out rather than waiting for someone to post on here?


jimmy156

3,834 posts

216 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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danjama said:
So, is there any realistic chance that my quotes will drop significantly when I call them up?
Why don't you... call them up?

anything else would just be a guess.

tali1

5,286 posts

230 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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dacouch said:
littleredrooster said:
Any idea where correct, or more up-to-date info can be found?
Each Insurer builds their own post code rating structure drawn from their own claim statistics.

The information is commercially sensitive so Insurers don't publish it.

If they did publish their post code rating areas people would also accuse them of price fixing
Most insurers will follow exactly the same postcode structure.Inner city always highest risk -and quieter obscure ones lowest.
Get a wrong postcode like OP is like a killer drunk driver and 95% won't want to insure you

Jim AK

4,029 posts

153 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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More to that postcode OP. Your choice of car, claim & driving record also are contributory factors.

And to ,ake matters even worse, do you have a criminal record?

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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dacouch said:
Those are Aviva's rating area for motorbike Insurance from about seven years ago, they bore little relation to car insurance then and even less now
Where does it say motorcycle (or do you have inside knowledge)?

Anyway, this says the same thing:

http://www.visitcars.co.uk/car-insurance/insurance...

Paraicj

502 posts

170 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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When I moved to London from Ireland I briefly thought about having a car for weekends and general wandering about. My E5 postcode meant even the cheapest of cheap cars was over a grand despite a lot of no claims years. I online quoted so many, hoping for a sneaky Volvo or the likes to slip through and bereasonable, but no go. I bought a bike. Not a motorbike. just a bike. Sigh.

dacouch

1,172 posts

158 months

Saturday 1st March 2014
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Monty Python said:
Where does it say motorcycle (or do you have inside knowledge)?

Anyway, this says the same thing:

http://www.visitcars.co.uk/car-insurance/insurance...
I've been in Insurance for a long time, we used to work premiums out by referring to an Underwriting Guide and would calculate premiums by looking up vehicle group and rating area and then adding any loads and deducting any discounts. I well remember using those rating areas.

If you look at the third paragraph where it explains the asterisk it actually says "Motorbikes need to be locked in a secure garage"

It's 100% the Aviva motorcycle rating codes from about eight years ago, there's another website that has the same thing which also states they're car insurance rating areas.

It had hardly anything to do with car insurance when it was actually in date as motorcycles tend to be affected by theft claims as well as accidents but not so affected by injury claims. Even when it was in date car Insurers had many more rating areas and also rated on the next digit as well (Most now use the entire post code)

The other link you've given probably uses the same data as the Aviva motorbike link.

They used the Aviva motorbike rating areas as due to their being hardly any money in motorbike Insurance the premiums were still worked out manually (By calculator and a rating guide) until relatively recently. Car Insurance was computerised for quotations a long long time ago so there was no reason to issue a rating guide for calculating premiums

Edited by dacouch on Saturday 1st March 16:30