997.2 GT3 RS or 997 GT2 RS
997.2 GT3 RS or 997 GT2 RS
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Blukoo

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3,812 posts

226 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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A few of you will know I've been helping my dad search for a 997.2 GT3 RS for around 7 months now, however he's struggled to find the right car so far. Because of that, he's now considering opening his search to include a GT2 RS.

I'd be quite interested to hear the thoughts of an owner of a GT2 RS or someone who's driven both. Just how wild would/does the 620bhp GT2 RS feel compared to the 450bhp GT3 RS?

Was there a standard specification for the 2RS? Were ceramics standard? Was front lift an option on them?

Thanks in advance.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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Sorry that this doesn't answer your question, but if you've had trouble finding the right 3, isn't it going to be even harder finding a 2?? And that's a rhetorical question.

I've never driven a 2rs, but if the plain jane 2 gives a flavour of an RS, the 3 is a better car in my view.

Blukoo

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3,812 posts

226 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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We won't be giving up the search for a 3. We'll be looking for both simultaneously.
I know finding a 2RS isn't going to be easy either, but you just never know...

He just can't decide if 620bhp will be too much for him.

SteelySteve

350 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Blukoo said:
We won't be giving up the search for a 3. We'll be looking for both simultaneously.
I know finding a 2RS isn't going to be easy either, but you just never know...

He just can't decide if 620bhp will be too much for him.
In my experience Turbos are less characterful than NA, and no horsepower is too much, most cars have variable power control ;O)

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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It's not strictly about the HP, but the way it delivers it. A big wallop of torque can be a PITA in some circumstances.

SonnyM

3,473 posts

222 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Alpinestars said:
It's not strictly about the HP, but the way it delivers it. A big wallop of torque can be a PITA in some circumstances.
Yes huge difference. Around PEC I struggled to get the 2RS to take off, in contrast the 3RS was alive from the first moment. Completely different animals - 3RS is the best road car I have driven.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Alpinestars said:
It's not strictly about the HP, but the way it delivers it. A big wallop of torque can be a PITA in some circumstances.
And be more fun in other, the torque made my Audi TTRS a fun car and also makes the power available.
When driving a gt3 it's not that easy to have a quick play as the engine needs to be over 6k.

Any way finding a gt2rs is not going to be easy and will also be £170k

V8KSN

4,713 posts

213 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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mrdemon said:
When driving a gt3 it's not that easy to have a quick play as the engine needs to be over 6k.

Any way finding a gt2rs is not going to be easy and will also be £170k
Complete nonsense!

The engine does NOT need to be revved over 6k in order for it to be enjoyed!!!

banghead


I do agree that price wise, GT2 RS's will be around 70k more than the '3 RS

Tripe Bypass

630 posts

232 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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I think William Loughran sold a delivery mileage GT2 RS recently for about £220,000.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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mrdemon said:
Alpinestars said:
It's not strictly about the HP, but the way it delivers it. A big wallop of torque can be a PITA in some circumstances.
And be more fun in other, the torque made my Audi TTRS a fun car and also makes the power available.
When driving a gt3 it's not that easy to have a quick play as the engine needs to be over 6k.

Any way finding a gt2rs is not going to be easy and will also be £170k
Terrible analogy. One is a 4wd car that any ham fisted so and so could drive quickly and the other is a RWD, rear engined car, that needs total care.

Have you driven a 7.2RS? Your point about being over 6k is well off the mark.

TheDeadPrussian

879 posts

246 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Two very different cars as some have pointed out.

Finding a good GT2 RS will be even more difficult than finding a GT3 RS in your preferred specification – as I have said on your other thread I think at some point you will have to compromise if you are going to find a car at all…

I also looked for a car over several months and missed a few whilst prevaricating – in the end you just have to jump in accepting the fact the perfect car may never come along. Take the leap now – prices are still rising!

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

243 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Given the amount of money that acquisition is going to cost, surely the thing to do is to book yourself the appropriate days at the Porsche Experience Centre to drive the cars and make your own mind up? It'll probably cost a thousand quid, but then you ought to at least know what you want to splurge a 6 figure sum on definitively, rather than relying on the opinion of the internet...

FWIW though - by expanding your search to the GT2RS you seem to be saying that because you cannot source rocking horse pooh you are going to try and find some unicorn tears instead. Only 28 came into the country (yes - rarer than the RS 4.0) - so given that you can't find one of the ~140 3.8RSs that suits you your chances aren't good. A couple of months ago someone was after a RHD aqua blue GT2RS as they had seen one a while back and liked it. It transpired that they had seen _THE_ one that exists.....

Are you really sure that you won't consider LHD?

Blukoo

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3,812 posts

226 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Already found a 2RS. Fingers crossed.

TheDeadPrussian

879 posts

246 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Blukoo said:
Already found a 2RS. Fingers crossed.
Good work! I'd be interested in your thoughts once you've driven it.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Wow!

Blukoo

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226 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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TheDeadPrussian said:
Good work! I'd be interested in your thoughts once you've driven it.
Let's just remember. I'm sourcing the car for my dad. No matter how much work I've put into helping him the past 7 months, I'm probably never gonna get to drive it.
He's very protective over his cars frown

Blukoo

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3,812 posts

226 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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DiscoColin said:
Only 28 came into the country (yes - rarer than the RS 4.0)
I thought there were only 26 4.0 RS in the UK.

I also found an old advert from Romans International which states that there are only 8 RHD ones in the UK. I did think that was a little low though.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

243 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Blukoo said:
I thought there were only 26 4.0 RS in the UK.

I also found an old advert from Romans International which states that there are only 8 RHD ones in the UK. I did think that was a little low though.
DVLA says that it peaked at 33 but now down to 28 (some left hookers have come in and some RHD have been exported so the breakdown right now has become an unknown). However, new registrations were 28 in 2011 + 6 in 2012 and another in 2013. Thread vultures will recall that at least one UK RHD car was exported unregistered somehow too (anecdotally OPCs weren't supposed to sell them unregistered but I don't know the rest of the story). Personally I thought that it was 28 from the initial run plus a few paint to samples afterwards. Someone on here may have official numbers? I know directly of a car that came to the UK last year though, so the 2013 is almost certainly a white LHD one from Switzerland.

Blukoo

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3,812 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Well, unfortunately my dad won't be getting his hands on the GT2 RS. Saying it was about 70k more than a 3RS was definitely being conservative. And truth be told, he still really has his heart set on a 3RS.

It was an amazing example and I just hope he doesn't live to regret his decision.

Nurburgsingh

5,538 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Blukoo said:
Well, unfortunately my dad won't be getting his hands on the GT2 RS. Saying it was about 70k more than a 3RS was definitely being conservative. And truth be told, he still really has his heart set on a 3RS.

It was an amazing example and I just hope he doesn't live to regret his decision.
Could I be so rude as to ask you to PM me the details of it?
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