??jago vs eagle??
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hi there,
as you may have gathered i own a jago, but i am wanting to know that sort of differences there are between my car and the eagle.
mainly to be able to know if the eagle parts are going to fit my car.
i really want to up grade to v6 power but think for the best all round vehicle i would be best up grading to newer brakes and suspension from a sierra. this is where the eagle comes in!
keith
as you may have gathered i own a jago, but i am wanting to know that sort of differences there are between my car and the eagle.
mainly to be able to know if the eagle parts are going to fit my car.
i really want to up grade to v6 power but think for the best all round vehicle i would be best up grading to newer brakes and suspension from a sierra. this is where the eagle comes in!
keith
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>> Edited by swizzjnr on Monday 22 November 19:55
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>> Edited by swizzjnr on Monday 22 November 19:55
Regarding the V6 idea I was convinced I needed a 2.0 pinto engined Geep as I helped build one many many years ago , but to be honest my 1.7 x-flow seems more than up to the job , put it this way my Honda Accord with its all singing all dancing VTEC powerplant was the canine danglies until I bought the Geep and it cost us nearly 10 times as much!!!!!
crossflow is lighter than pinto is lighter than v6 anyone driven one of the v6 geeps? wondered if you can feel the heavier lump or if it understeers cos of it? my 1.6 pinto auto is plenty powerful for what is a very light car BUT the v6 would sound wonderful there is one around pictured on the yahoo group granada/sierra v6 and box would be cheap maybe get a whole car for 100 ish with injection if you can work out the connections wouldnt be too bad on fuel either i seem to remember mk2 granadas were less economical as 2.3s than 2.8s and then theres always a 2.9 problems with the injected ones are the dreaded black box fears and expense if you have to renew might be worth looking at some other none ford power plants vauxhall v6 volvo had one too theres lots of fwd v6s but adapting to a box could be tricky or expensive or both but an alfa v6 jago would be a nice thought or more likely nice dream!!! good luck
Hi thanks for your views, they are all appreciated. I’m not really after big power or massive speed.
The problem I face is that although my Jago runs fine at the moment it will one day break, especially given the fact that I live near an expanse of woodland and off roading in the Jago is fun!
As most of you know Escort/Cortina parts are getting harder to come by thease days and especially 1.6 pintos as they were only fitted for a short while before replaced with the cvh
What I intended to do is start collecting parts and overhauling them for that inevitable day.
Ideally you could put a 1.8 zetec in there, but we all know about the costs.
Keith
The problem I face is that although my Jago runs fine at the moment it will one day break, especially given the fact that I live near an expanse of woodland and off roading in the Jago is fun!
As most of you know Escort/Cortina parts are getting harder to come by thease days and especially 1.6 pintos as they were only fitted for a short while before replaced with the cvh
What I intended to do is start collecting parts and overhauling them for that inevitable day.
Ideally you could put a 1.8 zetec in there, but we all know about the costs.
Keith
Not sure I agree that parts are becoming more difficult to find. I admit that I've never had to source anything quickly but I seem to be able to get what I need reasonably easily.
Apparently the CVH engine is a good contender for replacing a crossflow. Easier to get than a Zetec and much cheaper to install inline. Good for an easy honest 120bhp as well. Following the Sylva group as I do, Zetecs are not expensive to buy but fettling them for inline use can be problematic. Also in that sort of car, performance is of the essence so few are on carbs- they mainly use injection, often based on m/c parts- Suzuki GSX750 being popular. For my money, I want to keep my jeep simple so it's probably a waste of time buying an Alfa V6 (cheapie on eBay today)...
Apparently the CVH engine is a good contender for replacing a crossflow. Easier to get than a Zetec and much cheaper to install inline. Good for an easy honest 120bhp as well. Following the Sylva group as I do, Zetecs are not expensive to buy but fettling them for inline use can be problematic. Also in that sort of car, performance is of the essence so few are on carbs- they mainly use injection, often based on m/c parts- Suzuki GSX750 being popular. For my money, I want to keep my jeep simple so it's probably a waste of time buying an Alfa V6 (cheapie on eBay today)...
good coments
i agree with your point, of keeping the geep going for minimal cost, but you do mention finding parts given time! at the moment this is my everyday car, what if i blow a diff?
my point is to make my geep a little more up to date so if there is a problem i can sort it in days not weeks
keith
i agree with your point, of keeping the geep going for minimal cost, but you do mention finding parts given time! at the moment this is my everyday car, what if i blow a diff?
my point is to make my geep a little more up to date so if there is a problem i can sort it in days not weeks
keith
(Un)fortunately, due to an adult lifetime of messing about with kit cars I have accumulated a number of spares and I take your point about running one as an everyday car.
If you ever need spares in a hurry, try here first. If you wanted a diff, there are a number of Escort specialists who work with classic rally cars. Standard diffs are an embarrassment so the higher ratio ones are usually surplus to requirements. The hunt is on to replace Ian Harwood (ret'd) but although no-one offers as comprehensive service as he used to (yet), suppliers are out there. CWS Dismantlers in Glastonbury, Somerset have a huge pile of axles for example. The hot-rod and banger fraternity are useful. Keep Burton, George Polley and C.A.R.S. in mind as well.
>> Edited by IanA on Wednesday 24th November 10:31
If you ever need spares in a hurry, try here first. If you wanted a diff, there are a number of Escort specialists who work with classic rally cars. Standard diffs are an embarrassment so the higher ratio ones are usually surplus to requirements. The hunt is on to replace Ian Harwood (ret'd) but although no-one offers as comprehensive service as he used to (yet), suppliers are out there. CWS Dismantlers in Glastonbury, Somerset have a huge pile of axles for example. The hot-rod and banger fraternity are useful. Keep Burton, George Polley and C.A.R.S. in mind as well.
>> Edited by IanA on Wednesday 24th November 10:31
Yes I can confirm the V6 does make the steering heavy. Mind you a 2.3 diesel makes it even heavier (I have done both)
Still own the V6 version would still have the diesel one if some kind old duffer had not parked his car into the front of it a couple of years ago
at a combined speed of approx 80mph (I know we were doing 40mph as we had only shortly come off a roundabout and were just building up the speed on the straight).
Yes the V6 does sound nice
Still own the V6 version would still have the diesel one if some kind old duffer had not parked his car into the front of it a couple of years ago
at a combined speed of approx 80mph (I know we were doing 40mph as we had only shortly come off a roundabout and were just building up the speed on the straight). Yes the V6 does sound nice
i have seen some mgf electric power steering setups [i believe micras puntos and some others are similar] the column has a motor roughly the size of a wiper motor fitted relatively high up the column with a uj conneting to the rack doesnt look as if it would be too hard to connect to a geep - omly hassle i can see is the lack of space where the mgf leccy motor is mounted in the space behind the steering wheel . havnt looked how unit "drives" the column but maybe it could be fitted to an escort column in a different place say further down the column? the rack is different on power/non power steered mgfs but i dont have details of what ratio they are - if it would work would be a damn site simpler than a power rack and pump belts and the pipework as it seems just to have 4 wires - unless theres a control module somewhere on the car or maybe the dreaded black box has something to do with it??
any ideas?
any ideas?
dont know anything about mgf's but we do have a mgb(1972) the MGOC sell retro fit power steerong kits that seem to work in the same way but are not cheap!!
(www.mgocaccessories.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2emgocaccessories%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2f&WD=steering%20power&SHOP=%20&PN=MGOC_Accessories__MGB_Power_Steering_200%2ehtml%23aH600a#aH600a)
my idea is to build a sierra based geep though, then i could use a sierra pas rack and associated bits.
keith
(www.mgocaccessories.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2emgocaccessories%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2f&WD=steering%20power&SHOP=%20&PN=MGOC_Accessories__MGB_Power_Steering_200%2ehtml%23aH600a#aH600a)
my idea is to build a sierra based geep though, then i could use a sierra pas rack and associated bits.
keith
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