RE: Alfa Romeo 156 GTA: Catch It While You Can
RE: Alfa Romeo 156 GTA: Catch It While You Can
Thursday 6th March 2014

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA: Catch It While You Can

Keith has been burned by Alfas before but that doesn't stop him being seduced once again



Punting the Alfa Romeo 156GTA as a candidate to catch it while you can is - on the surface - the unenviable errand of mercy you give to a hopeless romantic. Since when has rationality been on the agenda in the world of fast Alfa Romeos? And right now, the 156 GTA seems to be on the turn.

No plastic cover to hid this beauty of a motor
No plastic cover to hid this beauty of a motor
It's reached the point when it's moved out of the comfort zone of your local servicing agent, but hasn't quite made the value leap into the protective bosom of the typical classic specialist. Bangerdom is perhaps a strong word for a car that costs between £3,500-8,000, but the expense of keeping a shabby 156 GTA on the road must be an increasing factor in the car's long term survival. And yet, despite all this, I find myself dangerously trawling the classifieds, and having one of those dangerous 'what if' moments.

And that's understandable. In September 2001, when the 156 GTA was launched, for one brief moment, it looked as though Alfa Romeo was capable of taking a seat at the the top table. But there was no secret formula, and it wasn't a clever car. An orgasmic 3.2-litre 250hp Busso V6 was installed where the 2.5 with 190hp once resided. Other changes included bespoke lowered and stiffened suspension, a chiselled body kit that did the beautiful Walter da Silva-styled body no favours (but did lessen lift noticeably), and some of the most beautiful alloy wheels ever made.

Mods detract from purity of looks but it still works
Mods detract from purity of looks but it still works
Upgrades intended to improve the dynamics included huge Brembo brakes, and even quicker steering - now down to a staggering 1.7 turns from lock-to-lock - although the atrocious turning circle remained. But in essence, the name Gran Turismo Alleggerita (which means 'lightweight GT'), seemed plain wrong for a car that was 91kg heavier than its donor, and amounted to little more than a shoehorn job.

So, it was a bit of a mixed bag - brilliant in places, distinctly average in others. And because of that, the road testers at the time panned it when it came anywhere near something more capable, such as a BMW 330i. Company drivers couldn't stomach its high fuel consumption (23.3mpg combined, 15.6mpg urban), nor its CO2 figure of 287g/km; while the rest of us wouldn't want to be caught within a bus ride of a typical Alfa Romeo dealer (personal experience here). And that's why in the UK, fewer than 500 were sold between its launch here in 2002, and its untimely death in 2005.

So with those criticisms aimed at the 156 GTA, why the hell would I recommend it to anyone?

Plenty of style in here too
Plenty of style in here too
Despite front-wheel drive, and a distinct lack of traction if you're ham-fisted, the 156 GTA is actually very poised and balanced if you're an understanding driver. Steer with your fingertips, and apply the throttle with a delicate touch, and you'll be surprised how much this car will hustle - it's not a tidy car for those who like to hoon, but for thinkers, it can be devastatingly rapid.

Then there's that engine - open the bonnet and behold its beauty. There's also no other V6 that's ever graced a four-door, which comes close to matching the 156 GTA's incredible soundtrack and creamy delivery. Acceleration is deceptive, too, and although baseline figures of 0-60mph in 6.3 seconds and a maximum speed of 155mph are no great shakes today - it builds up speed with such disdainful ease, you'll end up questioning the validity of those numbers.

So it's a car for the heart, not the head. Owners - addicts - love their GTAs and willingly forgive their faults, while the rest probably don't get it. And that leaves us with the enigma of the cheap 156 GTA, in those tempting £3,500 small ads. Head says no, heart says yes.

Buyers were few - catch it while you can
Buyers were few - catch it while you can
But for once, I'll let common sense kick in. If you fall for the charms of a 156 GTA, buy the best you can - there's no shortcut. There are three that stand out in the PH classifieds right now, all with less than 100k on the clock. Just for once, buy and think of the future. I'd consider the blue GTA with 85K on the clock, but only after a very long chat with the seller to work out why his description is so skinny.

Good GTAs will end up going up in value - that's a historic precedent, and only a matter of time - so why not enjoy yourself, sparingly, while you wait it out? This way, perhaps, romance and rationality can go together hand in hand...

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Andurron

Original Poster:

1,599 posts

166 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Very much heart over head. I bought an absolute shed of a 156 in summer last year on eBay, the 2.5 V6 rather than the 3 one there, and after multiple failed attempts to get it through MOTs, and rapidly running out of money, I sold it to Autolusso in Dunstable to be broken up for parts. After that, I ended up going on a road trip through Wales with a fella who has an estate version of these. Like mine, it had some of the most gorgeous alloys in the world, and sounded absolutely incredible. I'm probably not doing the doubters any favours, but if you do follow your heart, you're really in for a treat.

As for the dealer question, I would have to recommend Autolusso. One of their mechanics told me once that they have a fella who drives up from France every year to get his car serviced, and just stays in a Travel Lodge overnight. I can believe it - they're very insightful, understanding, and if you are taking the plunge into ownership, can't recommend anyone else.

JaguarsportXJR

237 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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One of my absolute favourites. In red, with the "telephone dial" wheels, it's one of the prettyest saloons made, IMHO.

When I was training to join the police (somewhat back in the day), I used to go for a run every lunchtime. This was something I never wanted to do and needed some motivation to do whatever route I'd planned without cutting it short. As such, my route always ended up outside the Alfa dealer up the road where they had a shiny red demonstrator of one of these. I'd always ogle it for a while as I caught my breath before walking back to the office to cool down. Strangely, I always did my whole route.

Still so much want for one of these.

Bladedancer

1,458 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Why not get a 159 3.2 Q4 instead?
Similar price (blue one is 7.5k and 159s seem to be going for between 6 and 9 on autotrader), younger car, AWD and 159 is meant to be a lot more reliable than 156.

Edited by Bladedancer on Thursday 6th March 12:07

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Love them to look at and hear - not sure I'd be brave enough or have a deep enough wallet to fund the desire though.

carinaman

25,142 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Bladedancer said:
Why not get a 159 3.2 Q4 instead?
Similar price (blue one is 7.5k and 159s seem to be going for between 6 and 9 on autotrader), younger car, AWD and 159 is meant to be a lot more reliable than 156.
Because they don't have the Busso V6 and they're all in the stupidly high road tax bracket.

S10GTA

13,780 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Had one for 4 years. Loved it. Sold it. Regretted it since.

RicksAlfas

14,517 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Bladedancer said:
Why not get a 159 3.2 Q4 instead?
Similar price (blue one is 7.5k and 159s seem to be going for between 6 and 9 on autotrader), younger car, AWD and 159 is meant to be a lot more reliable than 156.
Good car, but just not the same is it?



renaultgeek

473 posts

177 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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love those seats, but I'd deffo not buy one, Head would strangle my heart before it got to say anything

JaguarsportXJR

237 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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RicksAlfas said:
Bladedancer said:
Why not get a 159 3.2 Q4 instead?
Similar price (blue one is 7.5k and 159s seem to be going for between 6 and 9 on autotrader), younger car, AWD and 159 is meant to be a lot more reliable than 156.
Good car, but just not the same is it?
+1

Again, would love one, but it's not the same.

GTA Jimbo

10 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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As the owner of a GTA, I would agree that the 156 has stared to rise in value over the last few months. The question is will the 147 follow in the same manner?

S10GTA

13,780 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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biscione

275 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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renaultgeek said:
love those seats, but I'd deffo not buy one, Head would strangle my heart before it got to say anything
I used to think that... Then my dad bought one. I now own a 147 GTA haha

carinaman

25,142 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Keith Adams in the above PH article said:
Mods detract from purity of looks but it still works

Watching the Citroen videos posted by Kitchski and S10GTA, I thought the rear bumper treatment of the carb'd BX Sport was copied for the GTA rear bumper.

weez123

101 posts

171 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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No plastic cover to hid this beauty of a motor.....works well with a scottish accent

carinaman

25,142 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Good job S10GTA never visited Guildford. He could have ended up in a police cell with a massive vets bill wink



'The Alfa 156 GTA - Faster than a push bike!' - Said in a Top Gear Cycling Safety voice over style.

daveco

4,400 posts

236 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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I remember parking up and hearing a car accelerating out of a junction behind me accompanied by a glorious exhaust howl. Thinking it was some rare exotica, I swiftly turned around to see one of these!

That was about 7 years ago now yet I still remember it clear as day. Up there with the M3 CSL for great sounding 6 cylinder motors.

Chris Stott

19,520 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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What is it about Alfa Romeo?

Early 2000's, I ran a 156 Selespeed for 4 years as a company car. It was one of the worst cars I have ever had and spent more time in the dealers (who were completely and absolutely useless) than it did on the road. Amongst a multitude of gearbox failures, it also had 2 new engines and a new ECU.

I thought it drove nicely (when it wasn't in the dealers for more repairs) until I tried my brothers new at the time Mondeo 2.0lx... which wasn't as sexy inside or make as nice a noise but was just as fast, with better steering, brakes, ride, handling and much more space inside.

The car was a complete shed and should have put me off Alfa's for life... yet I still look at the 156GTA and find myself thinking how I'd like to own one.

S10GTA

13,780 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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carinaman said:
Good job S10GTA never visited Guildford. He could have ended up in a police cell with a massive vets bill wink



'The Alfa 156 GTA - Faster than a push bike!' - Said in a Top Gear Cycling Safety voice over style.
I am still trying to buy it back smile

will01

33 posts

190 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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Funny thing is the heart guided me to the GTA, but it was my head that decided that i should defo buy it smile
Never regretted buying and owning a 156 GTA, fantastic car.
My choice when i was looking at cars included EV0 6, TVR Cebera, Impreza, BMW 3 and some Audi's.
The Alfa won and i glad i bought it. I was doing alot of high mileage on the motorway at the time clocking up 700-1000 every couple of weeks. The GTA is great on the motorway, just soaks up the road. Then great for storming down the smaller roads and unleashing the V6, which sounds superb.
The maintenance costs are very high, but they are for any car that you want to keep in good condition, hence why lots are for sale cheap(because their owners haven't loved them enough)
Personally i choose to take mine off the road for long periods of time so i could justify keeping her, but can't wait to get back behind the wheel again.
The handling is great for such a front heavy car, the suspension just lets itself down alot when the road gets bumpy. The brakes are great on mine with 330mm Discs & Brembo combi. The diff lets itself down when its slippy and you are trying to power out the corner, but plenty have upgraded this which transforms the car.
Its a great car if you don't mind fettling it a little to make it truly superb.
Highly recommended to any proper petrol head smile

carinaman

25,142 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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S10GTA said:
I am still trying to buy it back smile
Are you still in that C4 VTR?