God bless the NHS.

[Nigel Worc's]

Just thought I'd share.

I received "that" horrid phone call today, the one where your child has been hurt.

My just 18 year old son was passenger in a car that was involved in a bump today, we were rang as it was thought he'd broken a bone in his neck (that doesn't sound as dramatic as "has a broken neck", but it is the latter of course that you fear).

He received wonderful treatment, it transpired that he has at some time broken a bone in his neck, it just wasn't today, gawd knows when it was, but who cares ?

My late father would be laughing if he was still alive, the amount of times my brother and I panicked our parents, laying on a stretcher with the NHS sticking us back together again !

[mike9009]

Not sure this belongs in general gassing, but I would second and third the treatment I have had from the NHS.... bloody brilliant!

(I think we have discussed this before Nigel??)

[fjord]

Wait until you have to deal with the mental health side of the NHS.

Only then you will realise that it truely is the spawn of satan.

[Buff Mchugelarge]

Glad to hear it's not too serious?

I know the call will come one day,My sons 11, but I still live in dread of it. I worry enough when his mother calls to tell me he's a bit poorly. When he starts driving, I'll be a nervous wreck!
I know I gave my parents more frights than they would've liked.

[0a]

I lost two family members as a direct result of the poor care offered by the NHS - one who had a heart condition that was not checked, and another that was severely diabetic that they ignored the family's experience on because 'we were not right' despite living with her regime for over 5 years.

The NHS is great when you get lucky with minor injuries and don't have to queue, when you realise the true impact of a system that has remained unchallenged, and encourages incompetence and waste at every level, your opinion will change.

I will do everything I can to get care outside of the NHS if I become seriously ill.

Good to hear your child was unhurt.

[mike9009]

0a said:

I lost two family members as a direct result of the poor care offered by the NHS - one who had a heart condition that was not checked, and another that was severely diabetic that they ignored the family's experience on because 'we were not right' despite living with her regime for over 5 years.

The NHS is great when you get lucky with minor injuries and don't have to queue, when you realise the true impact of a system that has remained unchallenged, and encourages incompetence and waste at every level, your opinion will change.

I will do everything I can to get care outside of the NHS if I become seriously ill.

Good to hear your child was unhurt.

My comments are based upon the care I have had for diabetes (retinopathy, in particular) and epilepsy - so not really minor injuries or short term issues. I suppose there are regional variations in the level of care....

[NDT]

mike9009 said:

My comments are based upon the care I have had for diabetes (retinopathy, in particular) and epilepsy - so not really minor injuries or short term issues. I suppose there are regional variations in the level of care....

I suspect there are massive local variations.
The NHS can be great.
It can be a disaster area.
We should all celebrate what's good and ruthlessly improve what's bad.
Sadly I fear too many of its employees (at all levels) will always resist the latter.

[Terminator X]

Best not think about what your kids get up to, we used to play on electric transformers as kids for example ...

TX.

[CTO]

fjord said:

Wait until you have to deal with the mental health side of the NHS.

Only then you will realise that it truely is the spawn of satan.

Why?

[FatSumo]

The NHS seems to have improved lately. Two years ago I couldn't believe how useless the midwives were at the hospital, the 'care' was non-existant, however with our second child on the way I have to admit that hospital visits and check ups so far have been fantastic I have the impression that a lot of the useless dinosaurs masquerading as midwives have left.

[Foppo]

CTO said:

fjord said:

Wait until you have to deal with the mental health side of the NHS.

Only then you will realise that it truely is the spawn of satan.

Why?

On the mental health side it is poor unfortunately always has been.Not funny either.

[longshot]

fjord said:

Wait until you have to deal with the mental health side of the NHS.

Only then you will realise that it truely is the spawn of satan.

I am a great fan of the NHS but I have to agree with this.

I have mental health issues and had an assessment of my situation on Tuesday.

The guy was pretty clueless tbh but did say that he will try to get me some councelling.
Shame it will be in about 3 months time though if I get it.

I may sound cynical but I do wonder if the long wait is so that some of us will have topped ourselves in the meantime thus saving them the trouble.

A reliable source told me that if you are not in immediate risk of suicide, you stand little chance of getting much if any help. Half a dozen therapy sessions maybe.



Pleased to hear your lads going to be ok.

Edited by longshot on Thursday 6th March 23:58

[Nigel Worc's]

longshot said:

I am a great fan of the NHS but I have to agree with this.

I have mental health issues and had an assessment of my situation on Tuesday.

The guy was pretty clueless tbh but did say that he will try to get me some councelling.
Shame it will be in about 3 months time though if I get it.

I may sound cynical but I do wonder if the long wait is so that some of us will have topped ourselves in the meantime thus saving them the trouble.

A reliable source told me that if you are not in immediate risk of suicide, you stand little chance of getting much if any help. Half a dozen therapy sessions maybe.



Pleased to hear your lads going to be ok.

Edited by longshot on Thursday 6th March 23:58

I'm sorry you have mental health issues, or anyone else for that matter.

I've been involved in some conversations on here, where I appear to be the bad boy, losing my rag with the potential bridge jumpers we seem to be suffering a spate of recently.

I think you either "get" mental health issues or you don't, and sadly I'm in the latter camp, despite the fact I have family members with these issues.

I really hope you receive whatever help it is you are seeking, and thank you for the wishes for my son.

[longshot]

Nigel Worc's said:

I'm sorry you have mental health issues, or anyone else for that matter.

I've been involved in some conversations on here, where I appear to be the bad boy, losing my rag with the potential bridge jumpers we seem to be suffering a spate of recently.

I think you either "get" mental health issues or you don't, and sadly I'm in the latter camp, despite the fact I have family members with these issues.

I really hope you receive whatever help it is you are seeking, and thank you for the wishes for my son.

My G/F is a nurse and freely admits that she doesn't get what people like me go through, but I don't think you can unless you've been there.
I have anxiety and depression apparently.

I haven't always been like this and used to be in the "grow a spine", "man up", "snap out of it " camp.

Personally, I would like to see people who have been there employed in the service as they have more insight and are empathic.

Thanks, but I doubt I'll get the help I'd like.
I'd like someone to tell me what's wrong with me and how to be normal again.
I'm currenlty pumping myself full of drugs which get me as far as "normal".

Anyway, back on topic. I don't want to hijack your thread.

Edited by longshot on Friday 7th March 00:50

Edited by longshot on Friday 7th March 00:51

[kiethton]

Had a family friend that passed away about a year ago following awful treatment and lies on behalf of the NHS in Essex, yes his own stupidity caused the injury but the level of care provided (or not in this case) and subsequent lies and arse covering is something else....

[Cheib]

NDT said:

mike9009 said:

My comments are based upon the care I have had for diabetes (retinopathy, in particular) and epilepsy - so not really minor injuries or short term issues. I suppose there are regional variations in the level of care....

I suspect there are massive local variations.
The NHS can be great.
It can be a disaster area.
We should all celebrate what's good and ruthlessly improve what's bad.
Sadly I fear too many of its employees (at all levels) will always resist the latter.

One of the things I find bizarre about the NHS is that different hospitals have different protocols....surely there should be country wide best practice ?

We're very lucky that we live in London and have access to the teaching hospitals which in a lot of cases are genuine centers of excellence. We have young kids who were both born at UCH...you simply couldn't fault the care....it's where the glitterati that use The Portland for child birth get sent when things get vaguely complicated. My son was born with a small hole in his heart...we were referred straight to GOSH (part of the same NHS Trust as UCH) and could not have received better care..probably anywhere in the world.

The other local hospital The Royal Free is st though.....

[Spitfire2]

0a said:

I lost two family members as a direct result of the poor care offered by the NHS - one who had a heart condition that was not checked, and another that was severely diabetic that they ignored the family's experience on because 'we were not right' despite living with her regime for over 5 years.

The NHS is great when you get lucky with minor injuries and don't have to queue, when you realise the true impact of a system that has remained unchallenged, and encourages incompetence and waste at every level, your opinion will change.

I will do everything I can to get care outside of the NHS if I become seriously ill.

Good to hear your child was unhurt.

And I can add another family member to your list, with a number of negligence factors on top of poor medical care.

[drfrank]

[NPI]

longshot said:

Personally, I would like to see people who have been there employed in the service as they have more insight and are empathic.

That's an interesting comment as my daughter works in mental health and she was commenting the other day on how many of her colleagues are previous service users. It came out as she was surprised how they didn't seem to emphasise with clients and seemed more focussed on their own issues.

[longshot]

NPI said:

longshot said:

Personally, I would like to see people who have been there employed in the service as they have more insight and are empathic.

That's an interesting comment as my daughter works in mental health and she was commenting the other day on how many of her colleagues are previous service users. It came out as she was surprised how they didn't seem to emphasise with clients and seemed more focussed on their own issues.

That saddens me to hear.

I can only speak for myself but I know that my approach would have been completely different to the bloke I saw the other day (who incidentaly was supposed to call today and tell me what they were going to do for me but didn't)
He just seemed to be going through the motions a bit.

I thought it was just me but my G/f, who is a nurse, walked into the room after letting him out and said "well that was a waste of time wasn't it".

My comment that you replied to came from that I feel that unless you've been here, you can't really appreciate the constant pain and torture people can be subjected to.
I don't know about other sufferers but I can't help but think that the NHS don't really take it seriously.
I've been like this for 5 years now and getting help is a real battle.