RE: Shed Of The Week: Fiat Seicento Sporting
RE: Shed Of The Week: Fiat Seicento Sporting
Friday 7th March 2014

Shed Of The Week: Fiat Seicento Sporting

From an S-Class battleship to a coracale-like Fiat - Shed's following the Geneva trend for downsizing



Look at the specs of the Fiat Seicento Sporting - front-wheel drive, 54hp, 93mph, 0-60 in just under 14 seconds with a following hurricane - and you might come to the conclusion that such a car has no place in PH.

But don't judge too hastily. As anyone who has been to the Geneva Show this year (which is most people) will tell you, small cars are all the rage these days, don't ye know. Fiat has been popping small cars out like peas for centuries. Its Seicento sprang forth in 1998 as the spiritual successor to the shoebox-sized Fiat 600. The Seicento was bigger, obviously, with a much bigger engine (relatively speaking), but it was still very ickle. Which of course is why Fiat set up its Seicento manufacturing facility in the Polish town of Tychy. Fact.

It's titchy and it was built in Tychy
It's titchy and it was built in Tychy
Here's the PH-qualifying secret of small cars in general, and tinny old small Italian cars in particular. Very much like the Italian economy, they don't have much substance. That means they make the most of what power they've got. With a kerb weight of under 750kg, even the bog-stock pushrod 899cc Seicento could be whipped along at a surprising not to say alarming rate. It wouldn't look all that impressive from the outside, but it would feel it from behind the wheel, where you'd have a daft grin on your face like a Jack Russell that's just nicked the last boiled sweet. There's a lot to be said for getting your kicks at lower, wallet-friendly speeds. You'll get a buzz, and it still beats the bus.

As the average Italian has about as much respect for a proletarian car as the average Spaniard has for a donkey, all small Fiats were built to be mercilessly hammered about the place. Our Shed seems to have avoided this fate. It looks box fresh and therefore perfectly primed for a rude and possibly blazing finale in the hands of a crazed PHer.

2000-on cars like this should have the fuel-injected 1.1 FIRE engine, a doughty and determined little lump with a non-interference top end. To help you maximise every last ounce of its monstrous output, the Sporting model had lowered suspension and anti-roll bars along with swirly 13-inch 'steel look' alloys. You may not approve of the front end aero package (pfft) but this pre-facelift model does at least escape the later 'improvements' of clear indicator lenses and (to Shed's mind) even less successful bodykit.

Not quite as plush as last week's S-Class
Not quite as plush as last week's S-Class
In case you're wondering, that 'overpaint' look on the black side rubbing strip is actually factory-correct, and not the daubings of a cack-handed rattlecan artist. Not sure what Fiat was looking for there, some kind of stroboscopic speed effect maybe. Silver Sportings usually had a smudged orange strip, red cars a blue one. In hindsight, perhaps this wasn't the Seicento designer's proudest moment, but as someone once said, hindsight is always 20/20. And anyway, it was appropriate at the time. Sort of.

Shame the Sei' doesn't have the Cinquecento Sporting's red seatbelts. You'd be amazed the effect those have on the ladies. There's something very deep going on there: try The Lounge for more material on that.

Apart from the usual degradation issues that you'll always have on economy vehicles built more than a decade ago - at one point, UK Seicentos were retailing in warehouses at under £4K - this car should be cheap to run. You might experience rough idling as a result of leaky vacuum pipes or sticky throttles; fuel tanks can rust and the failure of Fiat power steering (where fitted) is common and expensive to fix.

But there are no red ignition key issues and the Sporting sits in insurance Group 7, just four notches above the basic model. Seeing as how the car only scored 1.5 stars in the Euro NCAP crash test, it's surprising that any insurers will cover it, but the real fear of what lies around the next corner is surely an integral part of any thrillseeker's agenda.

If you believe that fun behind the wheel doesn't have to be directly proportional to your actual rate of progress, the Seicento Sporting merits serious consideration as either a young PHer's first car or an old PHer's transport down Memory Lane. All you need is a firm grip on the steering wheel and a brick for the throttle pedal.


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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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I thought the steering wheel was on upside down at a glance.

SlowV6

720 posts

168 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Lovely write-up as ever, but not a SOTW for me thanks. I think I must be missing something when people talk about these.

RicharDC5

4,194 posts

156 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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I'd prefer an old Fiesta. Not sure what is either special or exciting about these.

X5TUU

12,782 posts

216 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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hmmmmm ... well I guess it would fit in a shed ...

louismchuge

1,644 posts

213 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Ok, I'll do it...

BUS wkERS!

ALBA MELV

399 posts

185 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Favoured engine swap is the 1.2 (1242cc I think) engine from a Punto. Probably would be a hoot for the smaller proportioned sheddist or new driver, for me - I'm out!

DeltaEvo2

883 posts

221 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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I had a Seicento Sporting Michael Schumacher edition, it was cheap to run and fun to drive.
A brilliant little car in town. wink

SpudLink

8,150 posts

221 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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I had one for a while. Same colour. Was trying to convince myself I was still a young lad with a love of fun small cars.
It was mild fun, not much more than that. I don't regret owning it, but can't say I loved it.

elephantstone

2,176 posts

186 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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I had a Cinq for my first car. Great fun, great shed. Still think about getting one to drive locally in, safer than a moped... just.

lufbramatt

5,674 posts

163 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Girl I work with has (reluctantly) got one of these.

She wont let us paint the passenger door red frown

Redlake27

2,255 posts

273 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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A friend of mine bought one of these, needing a shed for a 100 mile daily commute. Not the most obvious choice, but it was surprisingly comfortable.

Fast? It is all relative. I've got a Cayman and a Panda 100hp and on a narrow country lane, the Fiat is more of a giggle. I'd imagine this to be the same.

I've got a soft spot for the most basic of cars. This, the original Ka, Citroen AXs. On narrow tyres.

dlockhart

434 posts

201 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Good town car & decent car for old folk.
I am sure many students will be happy with this little run around, it just seems to lack any sporting edge to it. I am sure the bigger engine will get to 30 quite fast, but its more functional than hooligan IMHO

Fartgalen

6,928 posts

236 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Aahm oot.

BFleming

3,914 posts

172 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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I'm not expecting too many comments on this SOTW. It's not a car people look at & it invokes nostalgic memories. It's one that your sister's mate had before it fell to bits, it's one that got the basic chav treatment because you couldn't afford a Corsa. It's not even marmite, it's just dull. Not a particularly good SOTW this week.

sjabrown

2,086 posts

189 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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A Cinquecento or Seicento is a car I wouldn't sit in. They have an alarming ability to fold in a crash.

miniman

30,040 posts

291 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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louismchuge said:
Ok, I'll do it...

BUS wkERS!
That was a Cinquecento.

Pedantry matters.

-crookedtail-

1,593 posts

219 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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My friend had one of these years ago when we all passed our test, it was a rather naff pink colour. It wasn't the sporting variant admittedly but was bloody scary at speed, made my rather stty fiesta look composed.

J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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Probably a bit of fun but not a lot of want for me, I know safety isnt cool on PH but this is rather scary,

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/fiat_seicento_2000/7...

firebird350

337 posts

209 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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X5TUU said:
hmmmmm ... well I guess it would fit in a shed ...
See how the running costs just get lower and lower! Buy a shed instead of building a garage, pour a pint of petrol into the (rusted-out) fuel tank twice a week and hey presto - the ultimate in fun, cheap motoring.

Very amusing write-up btw. As tongue-in-cheek as, well, as a Seicento...

renaultgeek

473 posts

177 months

Friday 7th March 2014
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14 seconds to 60 and death trap, I'm out. If we're downsizing, there's plenty other cars that offer that level of performance, with better practicality and safety. might cost a bit more to run but it's not gonna bankrupt you is it?