Milk and its substitutes
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JABB

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3,609 posts

265 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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I have just been diagnosed with a blood complication, but it has been a lengthy process to get the diagnosis. In this time, I have been looking at diet, focussing on dairy and bread.
I don't eat a great deal of bread so am looking at milk. Anyone given up milk and now use a substitute?
I was reading a comparison the other day and soya came out top, but it was still suggested it wasn't very nice.

All opinions gladly received.

Hoofy

79,981 posts

311 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Soya's nice but it depends what you do with it! Learn to have black coffees if that's your issue. Is it the lactose that you have a problem with then?

Tumbler

1,432 posts

195 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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If you intend on drinking lots of soya milk it may be worth noting It contains a high level of phytoestrogen, which mimics the functions of the female sex hormone estrogen in humans.

escargot

17,123 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Tumbler said:
If you intend on drinking lots of soya milk it may be worth noting It contains a high level of phytoestrogen, which mimics the functions of the female sex hormone estrogen in humans.
Does that mean you'll grow tits?

Hoofy

79,981 posts

311 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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escargot said:
Tumbler said:
If you intend on drinking lots of soya milk it may be worth noting It contains a high level of phytoestrogen, which mimics the functions of the female sex hormone estrogen in humans.
Does that mean you'll grow tits?
Moobs. Not as nice. And often hairy.

pherlopolus

2,189 posts

187 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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I became lactose intolerant to the point of having to give up all dairy about 15 months ago.

Milk is easy, I just swap for the Alpro Soya/almond/hazelnut milk (but had to stop drinking white tea as it tastes wrong), Rice Milk I find nice to. the Lactofree stuff (which is actually not 100% lactose free) still makes me a little unstable so I avoid it.

If you want to give up all milk derived products it's a little harder, you need to avoid Batter products (fish, chicken etc), yorkshire puds, and pancakes unless you make the batter yourself with soya milk (the soya milk based pancakes I thought actually tasted nicer). The soya milk has really long shelf life (even the non-uht style ones) so I tend to stock up when it's on offer as it is bloody expensive frown

the only safe spread is Pure (soya or sunflower) or vitalite, all the rest have some degree of buttermilk in.

Biscuits are a bit of a nightmare, as, for instance, bourbons vary from brand to brand so you have to watch them like a hawk, but generally you have to question everything.

Generally though if you stay away from pre-prepared foods unless you are 100% sure of the ingredients it's not too bad. I still get caught out, and I am sure that some stuff isn't labelled correct, but I only start getting symptoms about 3-6 hours after I have eaten so it's difficult to track down.

I learned to appreciate black coffee and Roibos tea, but costa/starbucks do have soya milk so you can still do Latte's etc.

Good Luck!

Craikeybaby

12,058 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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lepetitoeuf said:
I use oat milk for porridge, it works well. If I'm just havin normal cereal, I've settled on unsweetened almond milk, I find the flavour fits in with granola/muesli etc very nicely.
My girlfriend was on a strict diet for a while which involved not drinking cows milk, so we swapped to almond milk and for a lot of things I actually prefer it.

It may also be worth looking at vegan recipes/products, even if you're still going to eat meat etc.

pherlopolus

2,189 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Craikeybaby said:
It may also be worth looking at vegan recipes/products, even if you're still going to eat meat etc.
Exactly, I often say that I should be treated as vegan who eats meat.

Plane food is a nightmare though, I ended up with a crew meal (a very nice garden salad) on my last flight as the ovo/lacto meal was cheesy pasta!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Before you give up milk completely why don't you try goats milk. It is available in all supermarkets and you can get semi skimmed or full fat like normal milk. It also tastes far closer to cows milk than the non dairy alternatives and is far easier to digest than cows milk which might be just enough to help.

RizzoTheRat

28,765 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Depending on what it is you can't manage in milk, I'll second the recommendation for goats milk. It can have a slightly goaty flavour though unless it's very fresh. Depending where you live you might find a local supplier, we used to buy it frozen from a local farm.

TIGA84

5,577 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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My wife is anaphylactic to cows milk so we use Oatly in the most part. They do a chocolate one which is actually quite nice and a cream which is really good, even for cooking.

Swedish Glace Ice Cream is awesome an dairy free.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
Depending on what it is you can't manage in milk, I'll second the recommendation for goats milk. It can have a slightly goaty flavour though unless it's very fresh. Depending where you live you might find a local supplier, we used to buy it frozen from a local farm.
Delamere is now stoked in nearly all major super markets mow, even my local co-op sells it and its not much more than cows milk