Parking - is this the place?
Parking - is this the place?
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briandavison

Original Poster:

9 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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is the the place for parking questions?

I've just been issued a section 622 notice (penalty £80) because I had part of a tyre on a kerb.

as I understand it it refers to a footway (ie BLOCKING the pavement) not a couple of inches of tyre up the kerb

surely they are taking the "uric acid solution"?



Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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briandavison said:
surely they are taking the "uric acid solution"?

They might take that from me, but not from you...

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Roads are for vehicles Brian, footpaths for those on....naughty boy...

S34 RTA 88 Driving a mpv on any road being a footpath...offence, unless for purpose of saving life, extinguishing fire or other like emergency.

Footpath - (England and wales only) means a way over which the public have a right of way on foot only.
Max fine 1,000 notes.

If it was a TW that clagged you then isn't the fine 40 notes if paid quickly, 80 if you hold on?

DVD

TDTH1975

631 posts

279 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Highway Code

218 - DO NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs, the visually impaired and people with prams or pushchairs.

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Is the bay wide enough?

There was an article in the Times the other week, about people getting stung and winning appeals, because the bay was below the minimum size (1.80cm IIRC).

If it's too small, you could argue your case this way...

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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I suspect that you're in one of the many areas where parking control has passed from Police to Local Authority control.

I can't believe there's many BiB who'd ticket you for an inch or 2 of rubber (missus!), but once the council gets involved, its all about the ca$h.

diesel ed

499 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
S34 RTA 88 Driving a mpv on any road being a footpath...offence, unless for purpose of saving life, extinguishing fire....
They obviously didn't see the originally on fire, fag end now extinguished by the tyre.

diesel ed

499 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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TDTH1975 said:
Highway Code

218 - DO NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs, the visually impaired and people with prams or pushchairs.
So if you are walking along the pavement with a fraction of one half of one shoe overhanging the kerb you are walking on the road then?

Incidentally - how wide was the pavement, and how wide your lane?

number 46

1,019 posts

277 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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I have just had one these for parking on a drive in/set down point outside work which has a red block two car width 'road' butted up to the kerb stones of the pavement all at the same height/level, I had approx. 1-2cm of one tyre over the kerb bit, it was issue at 9.20 at night !! I am going to challenge it. The ticket was from Westminster who are complete and utter c**ts. This is all part of our freindly war criminal/PM: the rev blair's police state, we all most challenge these tickets and do our upmost to not pay them and challenge them. These traffic wardens are paid for by us to terrorise all of us, there are hundreds of them roaming the streets in central London and all they do is issue tickets for the most pathetic and slenderest parking offences. The whole parking thing in London is a racket, just like the mafia protection rackets in '30s America.

bluementhol

111 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Could be wrong but I seem to remember that the curb is part of the road not the pavement?

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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bluementhol said:
Could be wrong but I seem to remember that the curb is part of the road not the pavement?


The road goes from hedge to hedge. It includes bridges over which it passes and it will also include any pavement. However the pavement is itself covered by specific legislation of which you have unfortunately fallen foul!

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Wednesday 24th November 2004
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Particularly helpful for the blind fella who taps the kerb with his white stick to work out where he is going. Selfish and unnecessary. take it like a man and pay up!

Steve

number 46

1,019 posts

277 months

Wednesday 24th November 2004
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Don't think you understand there is no raised kerb where I parked, the pavement and the drive-in are all at the same level. This area is a 'carriage' style curved drive-in with enough space to allow three to four cars to park, it also has posts along each edge and has large areas of pavement either side.The ownership of this and hence whether parking restrictions apply is disputed by westminster and they are starting to issue tickets on out of bloody mindedness because, as I said earlier they are a bunch of c**ts.

supraman2954

3,241 posts

268 months

Wednesday 24th November 2004
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towman said:
Particularly helpful for the blind fella who taps the kerb with his white stick to work out where he is going.......

diesel ed

499 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th November 2004
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towman said:
Particularly helpful for the blind fella who taps the kerb with his white stick to work out where he is going.
Yup - prevent him walking into a speed limit, bus lane or no parking sign post.

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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diesel ed said:

towman said:
Particularly helpful for the blind fella who taps the kerb with his white stick to work out where he is going.

Yup - prevent him walking into a speed limit, bus lane or no parking sign post.


What a dumb post. If he regularly walks the route, a blind man will know the location of street furniture. What he will not be ready for is the ton of motor car that some selfish individual has left on the space earmarked for pedestrians.

Steve

number 46

1,019 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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towman said:

diesel ed said:


towman said:
Particularly helpful for the blind fella who taps the kerb with his white stick to work out where he is going.


Yup - prevent him walking into a speed limit, bus lane or no parking sign post.



What a dumb post. If he regularly walks the route, a blind man will know the location of street furniture. What he will not be ready for is the ton of motor car that some selfish individual has left on the space earmarked for pedestrians.

Steve

What ???

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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number 46 said:

towman said:


diesel ed said:



towman said:
Particularly helpful for the blind fella who taps the kerb with his white stick to work out where he is going.



Yup - prevent him walking into a speed limit, bus lane or no parking sign post.




What a dumb post. If he regularly walks the route, a blind man will know the location of street furniture. What he will not be ready for is the ton of motor car that some selfish individual has left on the space earmarked for pedestrians.

Steve


What ???


OK, I`ll speak up.....

What a dumb post. If he regularly walks the route, a blind man will know the location of street furniture. What he will not be ready for is the ton of motor car that some selfish individual has left on the space earmarked for pedestrians.

Steve

number 46

1,019 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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No one is talking about a ton of car left on a place reserved for pedestrians ????

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th November 2004
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number 46 said:
No one is talking about a ton of car left on a place reserved for pedestrians ????


I am. original post states that wheel is on the kerb - therefor car is over the payment. My blind man is walking along the pavement, tapping the kerb with his white stick when he walks straight into the front bumper of the car.

With me now?