Remapping - is it worth it?
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Seems to be worth it on mondern turbo engines where the base map is set with a mind on emissions and economy.
Bear in mind to see the best results from mapping you'll need supporting hardware. Normally induction kit and larger intercooler as a start
Make sure you go to a marque specialist too, not one of these man in a van type jobs.
Bear in mind to see the best results from mapping you'll need supporting hardware. Normally induction kit and larger intercooler as a start
Make sure you go to a marque specialist too, not one of these man in a van type jobs.
KarlMac said:
Seems to be worth it on mondern turbo engines where the base map is set with a mind on emissions and economy.
Bear in mind to see the best results from mapping you'll need supporting hardware. Normally induction kit and larger intercooler as a start
Make sure you go to a marque specialist too, not one of these man in a van type jobs.
It's very common in the bike world even without changing bits like exhausts & intakes. The standard maps often have flatspots due to noise regs & emissions for type approval which can be smoothed out.Bear in mind to see the best results from mapping you'll need supporting hardware. Normally induction kit and larger intercooler as a start
Make sure you go to a marque specialist too, not one of these man in a van type jobs.
In a word, yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfMY96v_Gc
I had started to type up a large-ish reply, but then I realised this topic has been done to death on the internet and videos tend to be better received than an essay.
I had started to type up a large-ish reply, but then I realised this topic has been done to death on the internet and videos tend to be better received than an essay.
The standard map on a car has to take into account the variations in climate and fuel quality in the all the markets it's sold, so it tends to be a safe "average".
Is it worth it? It depends why you want to do it. If you want more power and torque from a FI engine then the answer is yes. On a NA engine then the gains are more modest. If you want it for better economy then probably not, as it will take a fair few miles to recoup the cost. Plus, on top of this, you have to factor in the extra insurance cost and the effect it will have on any warranty you have.
As for the "damage" to BMW engines, that's a load of rubbish, as is the changing filters/exhaust.
If you want to see what can be done, have a read of this: http://www.remapsuk.com/blog/the-final-word-on-the...
Is it worth it? It depends why you want to do it. If you want more power and torque from a FI engine then the answer is yes. On a NA engine then the gains are more modest. If you want it for better economy then probably not, as it will take a fair few miles to recoup the cost. Plus, on top of this, you have to factor in the extra insurance cost and the effect it will have on any warranty you have.
As for the "damage" to BMW engines, that's a load of rubbish, as is the changing filters/exhaust.
If you want to see what can be done, have a read of this: http://www.remapsuk.com/blog/the-final-word-on-the...
V8RX7 said:
For turbo cars - Definately
Non turbo - in most cases, not worth it
Not strictly true, on NA cars you aren't always mapping for ultimate HP gains which appears to be the case with some turbo maps.Non turbo - in most cases, not worth it
On NA it is often a case of optimising timing/fueling across the rev range to improve power delivery or if there are additional breathing/ internal modifications features like increased rev limiters or anti lag can be implemented.
On a turbo car I recon 100% worth it for the extra oomph. N/A car I'd probably leave until other mods have been done as you don't get that much extra power/torque but would still get it done. Also 100% recommend upgrading the brakes & suspension to cope with the extra power, pointless having 40% odd extra power then you can't stop or make it around the bend.
I 'chipped' my old Renault 19 16v around 17/18 years ago, tbh I didn't notice hardly any difference, maybe a tad quicker/smoother in mid range but nothing to shout about.....£650 to take it from 137 to 151bhp!!!! Gutted!
My old E55 AMG was also remapped along with a few intake & exhaust mods, even then the increase was't huge, they're 354 standard and took it to 381. Still very quick but you just don't get as much gains with a N/A engine
I've remapped a few of my turbocharged cars and it's been well worth it. I've had this Saab remapped and it's taken it from 250 to 320bhp and just over 400ft/lbs. Its a huge increase from just a remap (especially the torque where it matters!) for £435. Worth every penny and imo it really needed it as they're not that quick standard.
Just do your research on the owners forums and find the best map to suit and which come recommended or more important which should be avoided. Not all maps are the same, some give bags of low down torque then run out of puff sooner some more conservative lower down to save the gearbox from exploding, some more of an even spread across the range etc etc so really depends what your after.
Prices vary as does how the map is loaded from car to car. I've had to take cars to the mappers to be done, some 'love mapped' on the dyno, some live mapped on the road, some done by post by simply swapping over ECU's or as with this Saab it's done via email with me sat in the drivers seat with my laptop plugged into the cars obd2 port.
What car is it btw?
I 'chipped' my old Renault 19 16v around 17/18 years ago, tbh I didn't notice hardly any difference, maybe a tad quicker/smoother in mid range but nothing to shout about.....£650 to take it from 137 to 151bhp!!!! Gutted!
My old E55 AMG was also remapped along with a few intake & exhaust mods, even then the increase was't huge, they're 354 standard and took it to 381. Still very quick but you just don't get as much gains with a N/A engine
I've remapped a few of my turbocharged cars and it's been well worth it. I've had this Saab remapped and it's taken it from 250 to 320bhp and just over 400ft/lbs. Its a huge increase from just a remap (especially the torque where it matters!) for £435. Worth every penny and imo it really needed it as they're not that quick standard.
Just do your research on the owners forums and find the best map to suit and which come recommended or more important which should be avoided. Not all maps are the same, some give bags of low down torque then run out of puff sooner some more conservative lower down to save the gearbox from exploding, some more of an even spread across the range etc etc so really depends what your after.
Prices vary as does how the map is loaded from car to car. I've had to take cars to the mappers to be done, some 'love mapped' on the dyno, some live mapped on the road, some done by post by simply swapping over ECU's or as with this Saab it's done via email with me sat in the drivers seat with my laptop plugged into the cars obd2 port.
What car is it btw?
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