Those lovely inboard rear brakes ...
Those lovely inboard rear brakes ...
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Jack Valiant

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1,894 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Don't you just love em!!!!

Well as I had a day free and the weather looked dry and I had a new set of Ferrodo pads it was time to sort out that annoying brake squeak when the brakes were hot! The last time I did this job I had the diff and drive shafts off the car and on the floor. How difficult can it be! - Kiss of death yes

So car jacked up and on axle stands, wheels off, good light, gloves on and into the breach dear friends.

First the little R clips on the caliper pins were nicely corroded on and after copious amounts of releasing spray 3 out of the 4 snapped with 2 of them leaving a little piece behind just for entertainment value. Simple things like driving the retainer pins out become a nightmare due to access and corrosion, the bottom ones eventually succumbed to my attentions but the top ones are nicely set behind the diagonal chassis member yikes After an hour of wrestling one side came out yes

Found the culprits:







Lots of cleaning and checking of seals etc and all was good but the weather / heat certainly gets to these parts. All the handbrake linkage was checked and lubricated. (The handbrake pads were almost untouched and in good condition) New Ferrodo's pads in, copper greased along with new mini R clips. The retaining pins were very corroded so popped them into the electric drill and cleaned them off and also copper greased them.

So over to the other side basically same story but at least I knew what challenges awaited me!!!

Time for the job 4.5 testing hours!
Cost - Nothing as I had the pads + industrial amounts of coffee
Sense of humour - failed on at least 2 occasions
Work place injuries - various small joint and skin abrasions!!!
Sense of achievement - not measurable
Would I do it again in situ - probably not but it can be done guys!

Points to note ..... keep an eye on the rear brakes and calipers they need to be checked regularly I dread to think of what could have happened if the pad material had eventually detached yikes

BTW the ones I took out were Mintex......so should have been reasonably good quality.....

Chris


matt-man

2,667 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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A great job well done chris...not a nice one at all but as you say, has to be done and can't be ignored. You can sit high and mighty in the brake conversations that occur from now!

When I got my wedge, the rear callipers were seizing so had to be changed. Horrid job with the body on frown

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Agreed they are a pain in the arse. I have this to look forward to soon as my pads are getting a bit low. At least I have freed off one side already just the passenger side to get to grips with.

Some tips though for next time ;^)

- use brake fluid instead of releasing spray (old bled out stuff is fine) and dab it on a week before you do the job so it really soaks in.

If the rears let go then it's not a fatal problem as it's the fronts that stop the car. Although it won't stop quite as quickly....

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Ahhhh, Chris

A simple call to me would have revealed a differential with carrier and brakes, along with everything needed is sat under my bench, just ready for someone to refurb and drop in!!

You could even have sat at my bench and done it in comfort as I have now cleared the garage floor of 'stuff'!

Joking aside though, I do plan on sending the diff away for rebuild @ £130, or there abouts, and the calipers rebuilt for around £60 each so that I can straight swap it into the blue one very soon.

Ill be in touch for when I need help with the body removal!!

Stu

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Are the rear inboards Jaguar pads and discs ? Can anyone tell me which Jaguar and what the pads are as I too may be servising the rear brakes too.

Tony.TCB.

Rockettvr

2,018 posts

173 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Rear brakes are indeed jag inboard ones. Used on many jags from 60s + 70s inc XJ saloons XJS and E types
As Chris says an easy job made bloody difficult due to position and lack of access
Replaced the calipers on my old 280 - think it took around 5 hrs in total due to everything being siezed frown
Ron

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Brakes .. not breaks.

KKson

3,471 posts

155 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Was going to put mine through an early MOT as I'm new to the car and am keen to see if anything is amiss. May well ask the garage to change the rear pads while it's in their brand new £1m workshop and very lovely ramps!

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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rev-erend said:
Brakes .. not breaks.
Have you sen the state of them??

wink

Stu

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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rev-erend said:
Brakes .. not breaks.
Look out Rev has his red pen out .. .. can you tell me how to edit the thread title then after posting??

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Jack Valiant said:
Look out Rev has his red pen out .. .. can you tell me how to edit the thread title then after posting??
I've done it for you thumbup

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Ta muchly ... yes

Xtriple129

1,173 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Haven't got a TVR - too scared so I've got an MX5, but read all the posts with interest as I probably will have one at some point...

I have changed the rear pads and handbrake pads on a variety of Jaguars over the years and nothing can be worse than that! I've known people cut hatches in the cars floor to do the job! If it's anything like as much fun doing the rear brakes on a Trevor as it is on a Jag, then you guys have my utmost sympathy.

400SE Dave

1,305 posts

201 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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ElvisWedgely said:
Are the rear inboards Jaguar pads and discs ? Can anyone tell me which Jaguar and what the pads are as I too may be servising the rear brakes too.

Tony.TCB.
Rear pads were Mintex ref MGB521, they are universal for many cars and available in different compounds. I guess you can get the ref number for other makes off the web if you put in this Mintex code

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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hallsie said:
rev-erend said:
Brakes .. not breaks.
Have you sen the state of them??

wink

Stu
Yeah - his breaks are broke... ;^)

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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hallsie said:
I do plan on sending the diff away for rebuild @ £130, or there abouts
That sounds suspiciously cheap; I know what's involved in just changing the pinion and output seals and the oil; plus the time to properly strip and repaint it, £130 wouldn't pay the elctricity bill.

mrzigazaga

18,814 posts

195 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Wedg1e said:
That sounds suspiciously cheap; I know what's involved in just changing the pinion and output seals and the oil; plus the time to properly strip and repaint it, £130 wouldn't pay the elctricity bill.
I found a refurbed one that was £450 plus an exchange...

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Jack Valiant said:
rev-erend said:
Brakes .. not breaks.
Look out Rev has his red pen out .. .. can you tell me how to edit the thread title then after posting??
Stay after skool .. detention biggrin

pricha38

13 posts

163 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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If you are in the Birmingham area I and several local TVR owners have used Central Axle in Spark Brook. Not in the most salubrious area but they have been at it for years and know their way round the Salisbury 4HU limited slip Diff’s. They are used by local council and Police and ambulance services.
All new bearings and oil seals re shimmed cleaned and painted with new breather £350

http://www.centralaxles.com/