Which watch from these two?

[CHN]

I'm in the market for a new watch, something classic and timeless. This is a big step up for me so I don't want to make a mistake. I think I've purchase well so far with the watches I still own, whilst cheap and cheerful compared to most on here, they've served me very well (Citizen, Seiko and Traser).

After browsing through numerous sites I've narrowed my decision down to just 2, a Tudor Black Bay and a Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope in black. The Tudor is the absolute top of my budget.

What are the general thoughts on these two watches? Are there any similar watches worth considering which are maybe better made for similar money? Used isn't an issue for me as long as its in top condition.

[michael gould]

CHN said:

I'm in the market for a new watch, something classic and timeless. This is a big step up for me so I don't want to make a mistake. I think I've purchase well so far with the watches I still own, whilst cheap and cheerful compared to most on here, they've served me very well (Citizen, Seiko and Traser).

After browsing through numerous sites I've narrowed my decision down to just 2, a Tudor Black Bay and a Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope in black. The Tudor is the absolute top of my budget.

What are the general thoughts on these two watches? Are there any similar watches worth considering which are maybe better made for similar money? Used isn't an issue for me as long as its in top condition.

Why does it have to be new ? you can buy a pre-owned mint for 40% less

[mrdemon]

can you sell me a Sub for 40% off please

[onesickpuppy]

Mr Gould is right, you can find some pre owned mint watches with a hefty discount. Who mentioned a Sub for 40% off mrdemon?

Personally, I don't like the Black Bay (love the Pelagos though) so it would have to be the Junghans Max Bill for me.

ETA: Missed the fact you would consider used in your OP.

Edited by onesickpuppy on Thursday 13th March 16:28

[CHN]

michael gould said:

Why does it have to be new ? you can buy a pre-owned mint for 40% less

It doesn't, thats why I said used isn't an issue for me.

[CHN]

onesickpuppy said:

Mr Gould is right, you can find some pre owned mint watches with a hefty discount. Who mentioned a Sub for 40% off mrdemon?

Personally, I don't like the Black Bay (love the Pelagos though) so it would have to be the Junghans Max Bill for me.

ETA: Missed the fact you would consider used in your OP.

Edited by onesickpuppy on Thursday 13th March 16:28

I love the design of the Max Bill, but I have some concerns about its durability as it uses plexiglass. Is this concern unfounded or will the plexi scratch easily?

Sub with 40% off, yes, where are they???

[yeti]

CHN said:

Sub with 40% off, yes, where are they???

They're not, the demon was being funny...

Interesting pair you're picked, pretty much polar opposites! I would personally wear the Black Bay more than a Max Bill but it depends what you want it for. The Max bill is incredibly stylish and err... I'm not

With the Pelagos at sub-2k now (just) that would be my choice over the BB too... but there's not much in it, the BB can do vintage looks, modern tech and looks great on the worn-in strap as well as the OEM bracelet. Very versatile. The MB is a one trick pony - it's very stylish.

[CHN]

yeti said:

They're not, the demon was being funny...

Interesting pair you're picked, pretty much polar opposites! I would personally wear the Black Bay more than a Max Bill but it depends what you want it for. The Max bill is incredibly stylish and err... I'm not

With the Pelagos at sub-2k now (just) that would be my choice over the BB too... but there's not much in it, the BB can do vintage looks, modern tech and looks great on the worn-in strap as well as the OEM bracelet. Very versatile. The MB is a one trick pony - it's very stylish.

The thing that appeals to me about the MB is that is stylish but also timeless. I'd go for the black face with the mesh band. The Black Bay, whilst not as stylish a piece, it is timeless and similar to the Rolex's I love with equal (I think) build quality.

[mrdemon]

I have a Black bay, said I would never buy a Tudor, but got it at an ok price and just think it's a fun watch
imo a very casual piece which goes well with jeans and converse to kick about in at night.

A Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope looks far to serious to me.

yes the 40% was a jibe at people saying you can get 40% off :-) as I would buy a Ceramic Sub ND 2nd hand if I could secure that price :-)@ £3.4k


Also take a look at Stowa.

"Are there any similar watches worth considering which are maybe better made for similar money?"
yes
A great watch if you can find one 2nd hand the SMPc still my fav watch for the money

[yeti]

CHN said:

similar to the Rolex's I love with equal (I think) build quality.

Open to debate - but no reason why they shouldn't be made to the same standards from a case point of view.

I must admit to being tempted by a BB myself...

[dom9]

Was going to say Tudor BB for sure - My favourite 'new' piece of the last few years!

But...

mrdemon said:

I have a Black bay

F*ck balls. Game over there then.

Only kidding David - pics please!

Lot's of love for Pelagos on here but not too many BBs about! I'm sure the OP would appreciate some wrist shots!

You seem to have been on a watch buying mission the last few months... Yeti has some competition!

[onesickpuppy]

yeti said:

CHN said:

similar to the Rolex's I love with equal (I think) build quality.

Open to debate - but no reason why they shouldn't be made to the same standards from a case point of view.

I must admit to being tempted by a BB myself...

The main difference being that the Tudors use a bought in (ETA?) movement, Yeti?

[Papa Hotel]

The Max Bill is nice but I can see the BB fitting more into pretty much any occasion in any outfit, it's a real all-rounder. Depends on what else you have I suppose; for me it'd be the BB but then my little collection isn't really that extensive. Yet.

[Riff Raff]

onesickpuppy said:

The main difference being that the Tudors use a bought in (ETA?) movement, Yeti?

Bought in and reworked. But, so what? You can't see through the case back.

[onesickpuppy]

Riff Raff said:

onesickpuppy said:

The main difference being that the Tudors use a bought in (ETA?) movement, Yeti?

Bought in and reworked. But, so what? You can't see through the case back.

Well yes, exactly. I really, REALLY fancy a Pelagos and a Heritage Chrono.

[Riff Raff]

onesickpuppy said:

Riff Raff said:

onesickpuppy said:

The main difference being that the Tudors use a bought in (ETA?) movement, Yeti?

Bought in and reworked. But, so what? You can't see through the case back.

Well yes, exactly. I really, REALLY fancy a Pelagos and a Heritage Chrono.

I've had both and sold them, basically for the same reason. They are big watches, and wear big, and I have a smallish wrist - about 7 1/8 to 7 1/4 inches.

I kept smacking the blasted things off door frames.

Of the two, the Heritage Chrono was my favourite.

Just as an aside, the build quality on modern Tudors is pretty good, but, IMHO, not quite on a par with their Rolex modern cousins. Comparing for example the bracelets, the clasps on the Tudors are good, but the new Rolex clasps (and indeed the whole bracelet) are just in a different class.

Edited to add gratuitous wrist shots.....

Edited by Riff Raff on Friday 14th March 10:53

[TheJimi]

Black Bay, without a nanosecond's hesitation

ETA: (see what I did there?!) the two watches are VERY different, and I do love the MB and ideally I'd have both, but yeah - Black Bay.

Edited by TheJimi on Friday 14th March 11:32

[CardShark]

If you are looking for something classic and timeless then take a look at Nomos, though like the Junghans some models aren't particularly versatile. Pre owned Omega Aqua Terras could be worth a look and come in different case sizes and dial colours, and there are a few Grand Seikos that are within pre owned range though there are fewer of them on the market.

Edited by CardShark on Friday 14th March 11:32

[DS3R]

Max Bill looks like it's worth twice the retail, although the supplied strap is a bit naff.

Until of course, someone points out the WHITE background to the date wheel on the otherwise gorgeous BLACK dial.

Now, see if you can see anything but that when you look again...

[don logan]

dom9 said:

F*ck balls. Game over there then.

Only kidding David - pics please

Lot's of love for Pelagos on here but not too many BBs about! I'm sure the OP would appreciate some wrist shots!

You seem to have been on a watch buying mission the last few months... Yeti has some competition!

I for one will not be buying another watch for a LONG time, it`s been a very naughty year!