Why do manufacturers make AWD cars in petrol but not diesel?
Why do manufacturers make AWD cars in petrol but not diesel?
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veevee

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1,458 posts

180 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Just that really. Looking at Volvo V50s, need AWD and diesel, but the only AWD cars are the petrol T5s, which would be nice, but not practical.

Why do they do this? Subaru took ages to make any diesels too, and the Skoda Octavia 4x4 wasn't available in diesel until Mk2 either.

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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BMW 530d x drive touring?

Chas88

630 posts

195 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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BMW, Audi, Suzuki and Land Rover all do off the top of my head, I'm sure there's plenty of others.

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

163 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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I'm pretty sure Audi's Quattro is available on a number of diesels, also I'm sure I've seen a diesel Passat 4Motion

jimbop1

2,441 posts

233 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Audi A6 allroad?


okie592

2,711 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Xc70? Passat alltrak?

4a4

213 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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amancalledrob said:
I'm pretty sure Audi's Quattro is available on a number of diesels, also I'm sure I've seen a diesel Passat 4Motion
2.5 V6 TDI B5.5 was 4Mo wasn't it?

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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BMW do a 1 & 3 & 4 series diesel with AWD not to mention the X1/X3/X5/X6.

Chas88

630 posts

195 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
The 1-series (at least) is LHD only.
You can get the 120d xdrive in RHD in the 5 door version.

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
cerb4.5lee said:
BMW do a 1 & 3 & 4 series diesel with AWD not to mention the X1/X3/X5/X6.
The 1-series (at least) is LHD only.
You can get a RHD x drive 1 series in the uk now.

veevee

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1,458 posts

180 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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I'm not saying diesel 4x4 cars don't exist. But seems only to have caught on recently. Pretty much everything above is out of budget (too new), but there are lots of older 4x4 petrol cars - Subaru, VW Golf/Passat 4motion, etc. Volvo still don't seem to make a smaller diesel AWD car. I was wondering if this was because most are sold in a particular market which favours diesel less.. can't work it out?

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Pretty sure my Defender runs on diesel.

veevee

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1,458 posts

180 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Car shaped cars.

Gilhooligan

2,221 posts

173 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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4WD is an expensive option on cars, diesel drivers are all tight bds.

405dogvan

5,329 posts

294 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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I think the OP is missing the difference between the 3 types of AWD system available on the market

Type 1 - AWD fitted to cars which actually go offroad (Land Rovers, Land Cruisers etc.) - all available and indeed mostly sold as diesels

Type 2 - AWD fitted to BMWs so people don't laugh at you on the 3 icy days each year - diesels available

Type 3 - AWD fitted to cars as a marketing gimmick - some diesels still available

Which of those was the OP considering??

Edited by 405dogvan on Sunday 16th March 02:44

JonnyVTEC

3,249 posts

204 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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AWD products are generally for the American Snow belt and Canada, hence petrol prioritised.

My Evil Twin

460 posts

162 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Subaru??
Legacy more of a road car.. And will return to 1 driven wheel on each F/R axle in the slippy stuff.. ala bmw/audi et al.
Outback anf Forester have lsd fitted in the rear axle i think so min is 3 driven wheels.

Iv driven the diesel for a 24 hr test n it was ok.

My Evil Twin

460 posts

162 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Veevee... You dont mention what your budget is . ..
Diesel legacys have been about since... 2008 or so..

vikingaero

13,267 posts

198 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Pure numbers. For a lot of manufacturers it's simply not worth the cost of developing and supporting AWD in either fuel let alone one or the other. If you need a AWD diesel then Volvo will push you towards the XC60.

SR06

749 posts

215 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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veevee said:
Just that really. Looking at Volvo V50s, need AWD and diesel, but the only AWD cars are the petrol T5s, which would be nice, but not practical.

Why do they do this? Subaru took ages to make any diesels too, and the Skoda Octavia 4x4 wasn't available in diesel until Mk2 either.
But they do.